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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
 

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DrawerBase Design

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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
yea, I guesstimated the height of the bed, ours right now is kind of high its got that whole 18 inch european mattress thing going on…Once I remember to take a tape measure to bed with me(did I really just say that?) ill get the right measurement for the bed height…

Actually the drawer dividers are copies, but the rails and stiles are also separated components, it works out ok for cutlist…

thanks purplev
 

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DrawerBase Design

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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
Is the back panel that projects above the various parts suppose to act as a datum for the rest of the unit and if so should it also project beyond the sides? Also, why does it have a thickness beyond a 3/4" material thickness?

I am assuming you mean on the overall plan and not the individual cabinet plan. That is the bedroom wall.

With bed set at the same height as the lower parts of the wall unit, how will the bedding and the base of the bed work with the rest of the design?

I have to actually take a tape measure to the bed and ge the actual dimensions, I was going of the measurements for a queen mattress, and my man sense for what the height was….(you know things are bigger or longer than they really are)

Is the height between the top of the bed and the bottom of the 'bridge' enough to allow someone to sit up in bed? Does the height and the projection of the 'bridge' pose any head clearance problems when getting in and out of bed?

Again I have to do some serious measurement there. My reason for posting so early is that I really need some help or ideas for the cabinet. I am looking for feedback on how to do the face frames, if I should use face frames…how they should be setup…etc….Right now my stretchers are plywood, I was planning on using a faceframe on the cabinet, but wasnt real confident in how to start it out…thus the reason for my posting.

The massing was just to give an idea of what I was going for…

Is lighting to be integrated into the design?

Where does things like the alarm clock go and will you be able to see it (and hit the snooze button) without having to actually move?

Lighting is going to be integrated into the bridge. The alarm clock situation Ill address as the design evolves.

Thanks for the excellent critique…that is what I was really hoping for.
 

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DrawerBase Design

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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
Dave, ooooooh, I know why you guys keep saying that…See I did make instances of a single web frame…but then for my sizing(I have adjusted the widths a few times) I used freescale which makes everything unique…I just realized that finally…

oh yea about the textures….I knew to do that too, but since I am only "really" using textures just to coordinate my parts for cutlist I dont really worry about the grain directions and such…

Thanks all for the advice and criticisms…ill get that tape measure to the bedroom yet….
 

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DrawerBase Design

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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
1. The bed seems too high, no chance of sitting on the edge with your feet on the floor.

Hehe…I cant do that now….Our bed is really high as it is right now…between the frame, the boxspring, the mattress and the pillowtop…
 

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DrawerBase Design

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I would like some critique on my design so far. This is going to be the base unit of my cabinet design for an entire wall unit. My initial design goal with this is just to get the drawer height set and comfortable with that. I have tried to add the faceframe elements, but am having trouble deciding on a method to attack that. I am probably over thinking it.



This is the initial unit layout for the Wall. Like I said above I am working on the base units for now, which will house drawers. The top units will probably have shelves, but could have more drawers…The center square is the bed

Please let me know what you think, and those who are able please feel free to comment or give me some pointers of my Sketchup model.
yea, I wasnt going for a toe kick…but If i did, I would build a separate bottom…that is what I have read in the cabinet books I have read so far.
 

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Platform Bed Design Initial Ideas

Well this is subject to change at anytime as directed by management.

With some help from the forums I have been designing the platform bed for my bedroom wall unit. Below are the initial sketchup designs. I had initially thought about using a torsionbox under the mattress platform but I think I was overdesigning the bed. So I raised the supports up to the 13.5 inches of the outside frame so that the platform will be supported by them instead.

The frame will be made of 6/4 oak with 2 sheets of mdf sandwiched in between. The mdf will be 3 section glued and screwed together with pocket screws using a reversible glue joint on all the edges.



The below image shows the base assembly with the top removed. The holes will be for drawers once I have them designed.



and here is the initial wall view with the bed included.


Any thoughts, ideas or critiques are welcome.
 

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Lingerie Chest - Starting Design

Well this is just a short post. I have started the design for the lingerie chest. Here is its picture:



I used a really neat technique from an article in popular woodworking. It allowed me to do most of the figuring and layout in sketchup once I figured out some of the minor math behind it(i dont have the dividers) If you want to know how I did it let me know….i Think it turned out really nice…

now I just have to design the drawerboxes and the fronts…of course all this is subject to change due to management considerations….

forgot to add I did some looking around to try and find some different dimensions for the layout…

I finally went with about 52×20x18
 

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Lingerie Chest - Starting Design

Well this is just a short post. I have started the design for the lingerie chest. Here is its picture:



I used a really neat technique from an article in popular woodworking. It allowed me to do most of the figuring and layout in sketchup once I figured out some of the minor math behind it(i dont have the dividers) If you want to know how I did it let me know….i Think it turned out really nice…

now I just have to design the drawerboxes and the fronts…of course all this is subject to change due to management considerations….

forgot to add I did some looking around to try and find some different dimensions for the layout…

I finally went with about 52×20x18
yep I have used those pages in the past. I tend to be a visual person, so even though his method may be a bit tedious, it was helpful for me to see the layout as i went.
 

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Design Phase is Complete



Well I finally have the complete design done. The total hardwood count is kind of low…so I am thinking ill revamp some things still…Maybe Ill go solid wood across the platform instead of using MDF in the middle…But other than that and the drawer webs, I think I have hardwood everywhere feasible..

Let me know what yall think
 

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Design Phase is Complete



Well I finally have the complete design done. The total hardwood count is kind of low…so I am thinking ill revamp some things still…Maybe Ill go solid wood across the platform instead of using MDF in the middle…But other than that and the drawer webs, I think I have hardwood everywhere feasible..

Let me know what yall think
I figured mdf under the mattress just because it was flat and wouldnt be seen.

I have a friend who can get me #1 common oak for 1.15 a board foot s2s…so I wasnt too worried about the amount of hardwood…I just have to find out what grade plywood he can get at the price he told me…
 

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Design Phase is Complete



Well I finally have the complete design done. The total hardwood count is kind of low…so I am thinking ill revamp some things still…Maybe Ill go solid wood across the platform instead of using MDF in the middle…But other than that and the drawer webs, I think I have hardwood everywhere feasible..

Let me know what yall think
hehe…I think we have alot of the same design idea…I am going to put puck led lighting under the bridge, and I am using utility plywood in the bottom of the design, you can see the plan on the other pages of my blog…do you think I need to use regular plywood or is OSB strong enough for something like that? I have been watching Holmes on homes, and I notice in Canada they have something called strandboard which looks like OSB framing…2×4, 2×6…i would never have thought it was strong in that sense…
 

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Raw Material has arrived.

Well i got my delivery of wood tonite. YAY….its all surfaced 2 sides. But I am going to have to straightline most of it…which should be ok…its all 16 and 12 footers…most are more than 5" wide, a few are a nice 10 inches or so…I am short about 100 bd ft, but since I doubled what i needed, I should be ok…



 

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Raw Material has arrived.

Well i got my delivery of wood tonite. YAY….its all surfaced 2 sides. But I am going to have to straightline most of it…which should be ok…its all 16 and 12 footers…most are more than 5" wide, a few are a nice 10 inches or so…I am short about 100 bd ft, but since I doubled what i needed, I should be ok…



its oak, I am going to have walnut panels in my doors…
 

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Raw Material has arrived.

Well i got my delivery of wood tonite. YAY….its all surfaced 2 sides. But I am going to have to straightline most of it…which should be ok…its all 16 and 12 footers…most are more than 5" wide, a few are a nice 10 inches or so…I am short about 100 bd ft, but since I doubled what i needed, I should be ok…



yep, i was really impressed with it…its supposed to be #1 common..but man oh man it looks like fas….
 

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Panels are together....

Well I have all my panels glued up. I did pretty well considering I only have 4 clamps. I was able to get them all relatively even and glued up using my clamps and Kreg Jig. I was going to try and take them somewhere locally to have them drum sanded down, but I spent yesterday with my 603 in my hand…sweat on my brow…and now flat boards ready for assembly.

Well really I have 4 more to do, but I have the panels for my crosspiece flattened, and the panels for my shelving and endboards flattened….everything is moving along nicely. I also started cutting the walnut for my raised panels as well as getting them glued up too. they also appreciated my 603 loving…

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Spray Day

Well I got an HVLP sprayer from Harbor Freight. Kicking myself in the butt cause I havent gotten one sooner…several weeks of work, in several hours…sheesh…

anyway here are some pics for you…..







Right now I am spraying dewaxed shellac. I am trying to decide whether I will need to topcoat with poly or not…
 

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Spray Day

Well I got an HVLP sprayer from Harbor Freight. Kicking myself in the butt cause I havent gotten one sooner…several weeks of work, in several hours…sheesh…

anyway here are some pics for you…..







Right now I am spraying dewaxed shellac. I am trying to decide whether I will need to topcoat with poly or not…
hehe..yea i was the only one home during the day…the only other person that has a remote is for the other door…heh
 

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Spraying is becoming better

I want to thank everyone who commented on my spraying conundrums the last couple weeks…

I am now adding 2 dixie cups of denatured alcohol to 1 quart (sprayer cup) of dewaxed shellac…it is going much better. I also realized that the sprayer shipped with the largest needle installed. I downgraded to the smallest and that seems to be going much better now too….



You cant see it in the picture, but the finish is super clean…I put on about 6 coats last night and you can still feel the grain and it doesnt look super shiny like before, i like this much better…I will be adding a coat or two of lacquer(i think I still havent decided yet) after its all together…

These panels are a bit lighter than the rest, but I think it has to do with my prep work on them…I sanded to 110, watered it down, sanded 110 again…sanded 220 watered it then sanded again…then I put the blo on with one of those cabinet roller polyfoam brushes instead of pouring it on and slopping it around…

We'll see how it goes..these are my nightstand panels. I still have to make one more I didnt cut enough wood for 4..bleh…
 

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creeping along...howdoyado?

well things are progressing, this coldness has really slowed things down alot, both just because you cant do alot when its cold, and its messed with my motivation some…

anyway I have started on the drawerfronts for under the bed since I can get them inside for the glue and finish to cure as needed.

here are a couple pics…

dry fit


first coats of finish, dry fitting in the opening
 
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