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Veritas - New Custom #5 Bench Plane (Rating: 4)

I purchased Lee Valley's new Veritas custom plane when it first became available. After messing around with it for a few days, here are my thoughts.

1) The plane is built well and looks a lot better than their old line of bench planes. It feels nice and heavy and is about the same weight as a Lie-Nielsen (LN) #5. I bought mine with the "medium" traditional tote in the back and the middle-sized knob in the front. This gives it the same feeling in the hand as old Stanley or a LN plane.

2) The frog is fixed and does not move like a traditional plane. Instead, you loosen the front knob and move the mouth of the plane. I found this to be much easier to adjust than a traditional plane. I could set the mouth open for an aggressive cut and then quickly bring it in to make a very fine cut. The mouth opens to almost 1/4 of an inch, which I think will make it a great plane for using with a cambered blade. (The reason I bought the plane.) It also has a set screw you can adjust to bring the mouth to the same spacing every time.

3) It also has screw holes on the side to take a fence. I don't plan to use it that way, but it is a nice feature. If you already own the Veritas fenced rabbet plane, you already own the fence. You might want to purchase the longer rods though.

4) It works very well and will take very thin shavings. I started to forget about the plane and focus on the wood, which to me is a sign of a good plane.

5) The Norris style adjuster is easy to use, but is a bit more sensitive (both for depth of cut and lateral adjustment) than a traditional plane. This will take a little getting used to, but was not a negative for me.

6) The only thing I don't like is the piece that attaches the chip breaker to the blade. It is attached with two tiny hex screws. It takes longer to get the blade and chip breaker apart for sharpening because of this. The screws are tiny, making them easy to lose in a workshop filled with dust and shavings. It's also easy to lose the hex key tool as well. This piece is the only negative I see with this plane. It's not horrible, but triples the amount of time it takes to take the blade apart (and put it back together) when you need to sharpen it.

Overall, it is an excellent plane. My hope is that LV will redesign the chip breaker attachment on the next version of the plane.

EDIT 10/23/2014: CL810 found this great video by Chris Schwarz that explains how to use the chip breaker adjuster: http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/best-adjust-cap-iron-veritas-plane
 

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#27 · (Edited by Moderator)
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OSU55 was right earlier in that you only have to loosen the screws rather than remove them. There are slots in the button that let it slide cleanly through. One nice aspect of this design is that you tighten the chipbreaker with it facing up (as opposed to doing so with the blade on top) so you can set the position you want more precisely. Still not sure why they are allen screws are needed though.

Another nice improvement in this place versus the Veritas bevel-up planes (that have the same adjustable toe) is that the set screw that sets a minimum toe depth (to avoid slipping and hitting the blade) is nestled into the toe rather than sticking out. Last time I spent serious time with that bevel-up i removed the screw because it kept getting jammed up with shavings. No problem at all with this one.
 

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#28 · (Edited by Moderator)
Not sure why descolada had trouble with the toe adj screw on LV BU planes jamming with shavings. I have 3 LV BU planes and have never had an issue with this. If I didn't already have these BU planes and extra blades, these new custom planes would get a serious look.

A little off topic: For those of you that have an LV BU or scraper plane and like the Stanley style tote available for these new custom planes, take a look in my blog - I have modified the LV tote drawing to create more angle. My LV's now have this design.
 
#30 · (Edited by Moderator)
My understanding about the chip breaker setup from the launch at WIA was that they did it this way so you could take the chip breaker off the blade for a quick sharpening (leaving the piece in the blade slot in place), and when the chip breaker goes back on, it's in the exact same place as before. No fiddling with the chip breaker to get it aligned after each sharpening.
 
#32 · (Edited by Moderator)
Walden-I agree that would be helpful. The only reference I found is from this page on their site:

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/CustomPlane1.aspx

The cap iron registers on a low-profile blade carrier attached to the blade, which allows fast removal of the cap iron for blade sharpening. It also lets you restore the cap iron without losing its position relative to the cutting edge.
 
#35 · (Edited by Moderator)
An excellent review, especially since the roughing application is exactly the purpose I'm considering for one of these.

One thing I've noticed is a fair number of Negative Nelly's have asked "why come out with a third line of planes?" Duh. Because it's better. And don't be surprised if the pre-existing line of BD planes "goes away." I would be all in for a LN #5, but the adjustable mouth on this…. I love the adjustable mouths on my LN 60 1/2 and Veritas LA Jack.
 
#38 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks for the review, I really like these planes, there are a lot of attractive features. One of the things that bugs me though is the low profile side walls. Seems that these planes wouldn't be so good for shooting as the sides would have a pretty small bearing surface which would make it tippy.