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What I like about LJ and what I don't like

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Ok. I know a lot about woodworking and I know a fair
bit about how the internet works, SEO and all that.

After a recent spat with admins on another woodworking
forum I've done some thinking about what makes
Lumberjocks a progressive model for a woodworking
forum that others might do well to emulate.

What I like:

1. a robust and accessible graphic interface that allows
people to post pictures easily in forums, blogs and
in "projects". The classifications seem redundant at
times and the competition for "Top 3" seems rather
silly to me, but I recognize that some people enjoy
that part of it so it's ok.

2. subforums. Though the activity level at present
is not so intense subforums are strictly needed,
subforums are a good organizational thing for
compartmentalizing specific topics. Considering the
technical weaknesses of most other woodworking
forums I have looked at I see potential for LJ to
grow among professional woodworkers and people
doing hobby work at an advanced level and that
sort of input will help us all learn.

3. open linking policy. Yes, you can put a link in
your posts and in your signature and people can
click on it. I'll explain that there was this old
search engine optimization belief that if you let
people post "do-follow" links on a forum, or
even "no-follow" links then the forum would
lose credibility in the search engines. I no longer
believe that to be true as Google and other
search engines are using much more advanced
algorythms these days which essentially read and
rate content for quality… which means a site
that has quality content will get "love" from
search engines and redundant sites with regressive
policies will not. Furthermore, allowing users to
link to relevant content and promote their own
websites is a form of give-and-take which cultivates
goodwill from users. The forum I recently stopped
participating in has draconian policies and basically
sucks up free content created by well-meaning
contributors while giving little back to them. While
LJ also benefits from the enormous "crowd-sourced"
content engine its user-base drives, it rewards users
for their contributions in a number of reasonable
ways, including things like "Top 3" recognition and
live link permissions as a default. Most other woodworking
forums are dinosaurs in comparison.

What I don't like:

1. Lack of "stickies" for redundant topics like "how to choose
a table saw".
 
#11 ·
Regarding the internal search function. Here s a way
to use Google specifically to search LJ or any other
site:

"site:lumberjocks.com backgammon"

Just type that in and hit "search", not "go".

I knew that, but I keep forgetting to do it ;-))

- Loren
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
Nix the quotes. Go to Google.com. I have it set as a default search
bar but going to the austere Google page is a way to
get to zero-point with Search-Fu. Google has an advanced
search tool and the phrasing above ^^^ is one way to
access its features without playing 20 questions with it.

http://www.google.com/advanced_search

example: I highlighted your query, omitting the quotes
and right-click (phmeh, Mac people) which opens a new
tab in my browser searching for that term, eg.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:lumberjocks.com+which+table+saw+should+I+buy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=seamonkey-a
 
#15 ·
I think the format is good, but what really makes LJ special for me is the members. I'm new to the craft and only once have I gotten a response that I thought was meant to be sarcastic or ugly. Try other forums, of any topic, and the new guys get blasted for asking the same questions everyone asks when they're just starting. Then they leave and it's a forum dominated by a dozen or so "experts" that nobody else wants to deal with. I've seen some pretty elementary projects posted, and no teasing or bashing ensues. I like that there are people on this board that are long-time professionals, along with inexperienced hobbyists (I'm in that category) and everyone gets along fairly well.
 
#18 ·
Loren, I'm clueless as to the "stickies". Can you enlighten me? Remember, I'm not very 'puter literate!

Don, Even I can post pics so it can't be too hard :) I'm on the Forestry Forum as well and find it IMPOSSIBLE to post pics there.
 
#19 ·
Posting pictures is easy if you're on a PC. I'm often mobile. If there is a way to post mobile, other then from the iphone, and have the pictures come out the right size, and easily, I haven't found it.

And even from the PC, of you're post a blog or project with a lot of pictures, its very time consuming.
 
#20 · (Edited by Moderator)
I m new here, so it might just be something I don t know how to set.

Why, when you click on a topic with 5 million post does it not take you to the most recent post ? Only way I ve found is to scroll to the bottom of the first page, click on show all posts and then you get the last page option. Have to do this every time. Is there another way ?

- Beatnik
If it is a forum topic you have visited before, click on the green "# New" shown next to the # of replies and it will take you right to the first post you haven't seen yet. You can click on that from the Pulse page or at the top of OP in the thread.

The other way to get to the bottom of a thread is to just back out of the thread, refresh that page and then open the thread again-that will hide all the early posts.
 
#22 ·
Loren, I m clueless as to the "stickies". Can you enlighten me? Remember, I m not very puter literate!

- gfadvm
Stickies are threads that always remain at the top of the forum thread listings. LJ is like most forums in that they move the threads with the most recent activity to the top. A sticky stays at the top, so they are easy to find and help prevent people posting the same thread topics over and over again.

Totally agree that improving the search function would help that situation, as well.

Great points all, Loren.
 
#25 ·
If it is a forum topic you have visited before, click on the green "# New" shown next to the # of replies and it will take you right to the first post you haven t seen yet. You can click on that from the Pulse page or at the top of OP in the thread.

The other way to get to the bottom of a thread is to just back out of the thread, refresh that page and then open the thread again-that will hide all the early posts.

- JayT
That was easy, thanks !
 
#26 · (Edited by Moderator)
I really like the knowledgeable members and replies, but there is pretty much nothing I like about this software platform. I rank it as one of the worse ones I've seen….other than some of the really old ones that are still in use in a few places. Just me, I guess.