A sure sign of ancient alien technology ;-)

Puma Punku has rocks weighing over 100 tons transported uphill from a quarry 10 kilometers precision cut and fitted so close they do not require any adhesive. Considering the advancements of archeology any ancient human civilization should have more evidence than the temple complex believed to date to AD 536. Engineers evaluating the site said we do not have that capability today.

- TopamaxSurvivor

Its cool Topa, if ya want to believe Aliens did some stuff, makes no difference to me, we are all entitled to our opinion.

I offered a link to an exhaustive documentary pretty much proving that the whole Alien thing is a psyop, use it or not.

I would point out in addition, that global sea level rose by more than 120 meters after last glacial maximum, so archaeologists are missing some stuff. Also, as WBBN pointed out, the Egyptian authority maintains a timeline and storyline that is, for whatever reason, false - so it is entirely possible other historians, archaeologists, and authorities do the same.

Also, are you not assuming that those huge blocks were carried, levered or otherwise manually moved, when it might be possible that they were moved by frequency, ie., sound/vibration - just as it is possible to split hydrogen from oxygen using the correct resonant frequency.

Below, a photo of water being affected by sound frequency. It should be flowing as water from a tap, in a straight line downward.

25hz>>>>>>>

Ever seen what 1,700,000 hz frequency can do to water?

 

Brian- +1 sound frequency- The Walls of Jerico in the Bible…

Joshua chapter 6…

https://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0606.htm#1

Brian I even included a Hebrew version to accompany the English…

 

A sure sign of ancient alien technology ;-)

Puma Punku has rocks weighing over 100 tons transported uphill from a quarry 10 kilometers precision cut and fitted so close they do not require any adhesive. Considering the advancements of archeology any ancient human civilization should have more evidence than the temple complex believed to date to AD 536. Engineers evaluating the site said we do not have that capability today.

- TopamaxSurvivor

Its cool Topa, if ya want to believe Aliens did some stuff, makes no difference to me, we are all entitled to our opinion.

I offered a link to an exhaustive documentary pretty much proving that the whole Alien thing is a psyop, use it or not.

- wildwoodbybrianjohns

Just adding to things to consider. Modern science brings us some unique paths, in opposing directions. 1st we have SETI the search for intelligent life. Then we have our own missions to other worlds / moons in our solar system as we know it. Oddly though we have science also telling us there is virtually no way another civilization could have traveled faster than light, arrived on our world and explored / stayed for a bit. In short no aliens exist. Okay but they already say we are a fluke of evolution, so humanity has defied the odds. What only humanity can explore the stars, or has a lock on intelligence in the universe?

You are all grown men, form your own opinion. I merely offer that we know very little about the universe as a whole.

 

Dinner: Jersey Mikes's sub- #2 Mike's way and homemade fries at home.

 

You are all grown men, form your own opinion. I merely offer that we know very little about the universe as a whole.

- woodbutcherbynight

Brian you are starting to preach what you think to others.

We are ever-advancing our US Space Force, private business companies to get off this dying planet… What I like most about science is the difference between "theory" and "the Law of Physics".

I would shout -out to people- micro-plastic-particles in our water and food chain and "space junk"

Ps to Pottz- Horiz. Mike has a space science profile (check it out) I would love to hear what he has to say about- space and the universe.

 

Dinner: Jersey Mikes s sub- #2 Mike s way and homemade fries at home.

- Desert_Woodworker

love me jersey mikes,the italian is my fav.

 

You are all grown men, form your own opinion. I merely offer that we know very little about the universe as a whole.

- woodbutcherbynight

Brian you are starting to preach what you think to others.

We are ever-advancing our US Space Force, private business companies to get off this dying planet… What I like most about science is the difference between "theory" and "the Law of Physics".

I would shout -out to people- micro-plastic-particles in our water and food chain and "space junk"

Ps to Pottz- Horiz. Mike has a space science profile (check it out) I would love to hear what he has to say about- space and the universe.

- Desert_Woodworker

yeah i think mike is definitely from outer space.

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it's been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it's sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we'll talk tomorrow.peace.

 

Thanks Bob & butcher. 10/3 in copper is about the $$ limit, then it makes more sense to go to Al, actually might already make sense. I'm quite familiar with voltage drop, we have about 123V anywhere in the house with zero draw. My 15A 120VAC 25 gallon compressor (rated at 6hp! HA) on a ~20' run of 14/2 only drops down to 117V as it reaches the cut out pressure. My little hotdog compressor is rated at 12A and with a direct drive oil lubed pump it can be quite lethargic during the first cold weather start up, on the back porch plugged into a run of ~35' of 14/2 it drops to 106V as it reaches cut out pressure (measured when the oil was pretty cold on the first cycle). It will almost certainly trip its own 16A breaker chugging slowly for over 15 seconds before it ramps up to speed, this is not a split phase motor with a centrifugal switch, it has only one capacitor so not much starting torque but very cheap. I tried to run it off 150' of 12/2 extension cord plus the ~35' of 14/2 in the house and it would barely turn over, it was at 72V when trying. A 15A circular saw or 15A miter saw does poorly on the end of that run but still works, just not very well.

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it s been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it s sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we ll talk tomorrow.peace.

- pottz

Good night- I am sure that the urn will be memorable- please post.

 

and for the Dire wolf…

Husky Walks In Yelling Then Leaves!

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it s been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it s sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we ll talk tomorrow.peace.

- pottz

Most sincere condolences pottz. Seems like it is that time of life. Most of my close friends have abandoned me
;-(

I came on early to read you a bedtime story and tuck you in, but you are already gone to bed. Oh, well, sleep tight.

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it s been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it s sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we ll talk tomorrow.peace.

- pottz

My condolences, always tough losing someone close. Especially old friends.

 

Thanks Bob & butcher. 10/3 in copper is about the $$ limit, then it makes more sense to go to Al, actually might already make sense. I m quite familiar with voltage drop, we have about 123V anywhere in the house with zero draw. My 15A 120VAC 25 gallon compressor (rated at 6hp! HA) on a ~20 run of 14/2 only drops down to 117V as it reaches the cut out pressure. My little hotdog compressor is rated at 12A and with a direct drive oil lubed pump it can be quite lethargic during the first cold weather start up, on the back porch plugged into a run of ~35 of 14/2 it drops to 106V as it reaches cut out pressure (measured when the oil was pretty cold on the first cycle). It will almost certainly trip its own 16A breaker chugging slowly for over 15 seconds before it ramps up to speed, this is not a split phase motor with a centrifugal switch, it has only one capacitor so not much starting torque but very cheap. I tried to run it off 150 of 12/2 extension cord plus the ~35 of 14/2 in the house and it would barely turn over, it was at 72V when trying. A 15A circular saw or 15A miter saw does poorly on the end of that run but still works, just not very well.

- bigblockyeti

You know more about voltage drop than most electricians ;-)) I'm not sure how they rate the HP on those motors. Probably locked rotor current ;-)) The code says a 5 hp 240 motor draws 28 amps. That is for sizing the circuit. Most motors drew slightly less back when HP meant something. Your 15A 120VAC 25 gallon compressor rated at 6hp must be a chiknees/englush misinterpretation. Code rates 115 v 16A @ 1 HP.

 

Its cool Topa, if ya want to believe Aliens did some stuff, makes no difference to me, we are all entitled to our opinion.
..........................

Also, are you not assuming that those huge blocks were carried, levered or otherwise manually moved, when it might be possible that they were moved by frequency, ie., sound/vibration - just as it is possible to split hydrogen from oxygen using the correct resonant frequency.

Below, a photo of water being affected by sound frequency. It should be flowing as water from a tap, in a straight line downward.

Ever seen what 1,700,000 hz frequency can do to water?

- wildwoodbybrianjohns

That type of technology was probably used alright. There should be some evidence of the equipment if it was used by ancient man 1500 years ago. They didn't even read or write at Puma Punku. If the first mass extinction is unknown a billion years ago all the archeological evidence may be gone. India has an alien war in its traditions. Those armies may have been perceived as aliens by our early ancestors even though they were earth's original civilization. ******************** Sapiens isn't going to create those levels of technology and master the ability to create another Puma Punku.

Many documentaries generate more questions than answers and that one is listed as sci-fi as well as documentary. Dr. Josef Allen Hynek spent 20 years trying to debunk UFOs for the Air Force. At the end of Project Blue Book in the early 60s, he concluded there is evidence they exist.

Dr. Jeff Meldrum, Professor of Anatomy & Anthropology at Idaho State University says the detailed casts of bigfoot tracks show the qualities of genuine footprints of a heavy bipod. Something that would be nearly impossible to counterfeit.

An accomplished writer in her home country of Sweden, Barbro Karlén published her first book when she was only 12 years old. As a young child, she began having memories of a past life, which lead her to believe that her name was Anne Frank. Her parents are Christian. Her parents had never heard of The Diary of Anne Frank at that time. Through her memory alone, led her parents to the preserved hiding place of Anne and her family. She pointed out landmarks and features of the house, which the curator confirmed, including a blank wall on which photographs were missing. There are thousands of cases of 2 to 5-year-olds who have memories that indicate they are reincarnated. How do 2 to 5-year-olds study and remember convincing data without their parents' knowledge or assistance?

The unexplainable mysteries abound! ;-))

The sea level rising should get us another 120 meters. The last time there was 425 ppm carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, there were trees growing on the South Pole. 60% of mammals are already gone since 1970. 70% of the salmon catch of Japan has evaporated since 1970 too. The last 20 years have seen the evaporation of 40% of the Alaskan fishery. In the last few years, Starfish are evaporating from the Pacific. Warmer temps have shortened the growing season in America's Bread Basket by a day ripening faster. That has reduced yields by as much as 10% in some cases.

It has taken 200 million years for the human brain to develop the knowledge and intelligence to provide the technology we have today. It has taken less than 2 million hours to assure we suffer earth's 6th mass extinction event that is well underway. As evolution continues, I believe psychological studies will prove ******************** Sapiens has evolved into ******************** Stultus. Civilization's suicide will be completed in less than 200 years, maybe just 100. The wars over disappearing resources will most likely end civilization a few years early in a Nuclear Winter.

 

Me using the phrase - "makes no difference to me," was rude and I apologize for that. I like having discussions with Topa.

I dont believe I am preaching here, what I am doing is offering alternative viewpoints on a number of subjects. As Topa and WBBN are doing as well. Topa makes some legit and interesting points in his last post.

I understand that the documentary I linked above may also be disinformation, as WBBN pointed out. The guys who specialize is this type thing are very good at what they do.

I am not saying I am right about any of these subjects, nor am I arguing that it is impossible for Aliens to exist. I am open to all information and ideas.

Topa states above that it has taken 200 million years for the human brain to develope. How do we KNOW this? Fact is, we dont. It is an estimate, a theory. Just as is the age of the Universe a guess - the farther out we look, the older the Universe gets, to the point currently, where we have indentified star systems that are older than the Universe. We are also told that bears, otters and other small land mammals evolved into seals, sea lions, and walruses. If people want to believe that, fine. Others wont, also fine.

Has everyone forgotten the ART of Debate?

One side offers information, then the other has its turn, neither side changes their opinion, usually, but in the process, others may interpret all the information and use it to form their own opinion, or not.

Hyneck, working for the Air Force, who is developing advanced technology that is Above Top Secret, after 20 years, finds that Aliens exist - which is exactly what the Air Force Pysop is designed to do. Is it not possible that one branch of the Air Force or Navy is working on tech that the rest of the Air Force is unaware of? So you have Navy interceptors chasing down Air Force anti-gravity propulsion systems - plausible, at least.

Some questions that occured to me, taking as the premise that Aliens built the mysterious megalithic structures we find all over the globe:

These so-called Aliens travel in metallic or metalic composite craft, which seem to utilize anti-gravity propulsion. They either originated here or came here in these craft. Then, they build massive structures in stone, which would have taken some time, days, weeks, months, years. Yet, they leave no trace of their presence at the construction sites? Wouldnt one of them have left behind his lunchbox, or dropped a coin from Sirius, misplaced a tool, or something? This is the same question that arrises if we theorize that an ancient advanced civilization of Earth built these structures. Extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary evidence.

If these aliens had the technology to extract and refine metals for production of craft, why didnt they build structures in metals? Is stone more durable and long-lasting than metal?

Or, did they first build these structures in stone, and only later developed metal extraction techniques, and later still utilize metals in the fabrication of craft?

If these Aliens once populated certain areas of earth, why dont they anymore?

What did populate Earth and still does - is Humans.

But we neednt look to Aliens to explain the Craft phenomena>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

Pottz,

Very sorry for your loss. I whish you luck with the Urn. Difficult thing to do I imagine.

Very interesting discussion last night. No mention of Easter Island. How did they do that?

Have a great day

 

Sorry for your loss Pottz. I didn't see it as preaching you guys are just having a discussion. DW Huskies have a lot to say sometimes.

 

Guys great discussion on this off the chains topic. Brian alot of good stuff in your last post. Will get more in depth this evening. Hate typing long replies on my phone. LOL

I do find it odd we have yet to find even a lunchbox left.

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it s been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it s sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we ll talk tomorrow.peace.

- pottz

Most sincere condolences pottz. Seems like it is that time of life. Most of my close friends have abandoned me
;-(

I came on early to read you a bedtime story and tuck you in, but you are already gone to bed. Oh, well, sleep tight.

- TopamaxSurvivor

thanks bob.

 

well guys im not gonna say much tonight it s been a very hard day for me,started out with the news that my long term coworker and best friend of 38 years passed away after a long battle with bone cancer.it s sad too lose him but glad he is no longer in pain.ive been asked too create his burial urn just as i did for his daughter several years ago,it will be a sad and painful project but one from the heart that im honored too do.goodnight boys,we ll talk tomorrow.peace.

- pottz

My condolences, always tough losing someone close. Especially old friends.

- woodbutcherbynight

yeah never easy,thats the problem when you live to be very old all your friends have passed away,sometimes even family.

 

Pottz,

Very sorry for your loss. I whish you luck with the Urn. Difficult thing to do I imagine.

Very interesting discussion last night. No mention of Easter Island. How did they do that?

Have a great day

- Peteybadboy

thanks petey,yeah urns are no fun this wont be my first but i hope it's my last,we'll see.

 

I do find it odd we have yet to find even a lunchbox left.

- woodbutcherbynight

+1 yet one must seek elsewhere when there are no clues…other ways to think about finding "leftovers"

"When it comes to direct evidence of an industrial civilization-things like cities, factories, and roads-the geologic record doesn't go back past what's called the Quaternary period 2.6 million years ago. For example, the oldest large-scale stretch of ancient surface lies in the Negev Desert. It's "just" 1.8 million years old-older surfaces are mostly visible in cross-section via something like a cliff face or rock cuts. Go back much further than the Quaternary, and everything has been turned over and crushed to dust."

Was There a Civilization on Earth Before Humans?

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/are-we-earths-only-civilization/557180/

 

Some may have gotten the impression that I was picking on Topa. I was not, and in fact, we have had discussions like this before via PM´s. Topa is a cool customer and never loses his temper, he puts forth his side, I put forth mine, we consider each others point of view, and then, sometimes we agree, and other mtimes we agree to disagree.

What DW posts above is exactly what I am after - he saw some information, then took the initiative, investigated, and expanded on it - and that, folks, is all I ever aim to do - inspire.

Expanding on DW´s post, rather than considering "A Previous Civilization," might we not consider - Previous Civilizations? As in, a Cycle that repeats, like your heartbeat.

And really, it is like WBBN wrote earlier - all that we can really KNOW is what we experience first hand, and even then we may be mistaken.

Some scientists will tell you that we are living in a computer simulation; some will speak of the Multiverse; some will speak of the Big Bang; some speak of many dimensions though we only experience this one; some speak of dark energy and dark matter; some speak of folded space and time travel - but it is all theory, ie., guesswork.

Even what we are taught about the atom, the electron, the Dielectric and Gravity may be entirely false.

Oh, and one other thing - who says that Aliens are smarter than US, why do they have to be smarter? They could be rather dumb and still figure out anti-gravity propulsion - as WE did.

All that is necessary for such a thing is to understand the true nature of the dielectric and gravity.

 

A true Story from an Irish Sunday School Teacher. I was testing the children in my Dublin Sunday school class to see if they understood the concept of getting to heaven.

I asked them, ' If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale and gave all my money to the church, would that get me into heaven?' 'NO!' the children answered.
'If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the garden, and kept everything tidy, would that get me into heaven?' Again, the answer was 'NO!'
'If I gave sweets to all the children, and loved my husband, would that get me into heaven?'Again, they all answered 'NO!'

I was just bursting with pride for them. I continued, 'Then how can I get into heaven?'
A little boy shouted out: 'YUV GOTTA BE DEAD!'
It's a curious race, the Irish. Brings a tear to the eye, doesn't it? eh?