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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Keep it going for you guys. Let's keep the politics limited this time.

A young woman visits her parents and brings her fiancée to meet them. After an elaborate dinner, the mother tells her husband to find out about the young man.

The father invites the fiancée to his library for a drink. "So what are your plans?" the father asks the young man.

"I am a Torah scholar," he says. "A Torah scholar? Hmmm," the father says.

"Admirable, but what will you do to provide a nice house for my daughter to live in, as she is accustomed to?"

"I will study," the young man said, "and God will provide for us."

"And how will you buy her a beautiful engagement ring, such as she deserves?" asks the father.

"I will concentrate on my studies," the young man replies. "God will provide for us."

"And children?" asks the father. "How will you support children?"

"Don't worry, sir, God will provide," replies the fiancée.

The conversation continues like this, and each time the father questions, the young idealist insist that God will provide.

Later, the mother asks: "How did it go, Honey?"

The father answers: "He has no job and no plans, but the good news is he thinks I'm God."
 
#3,902 · (Edited by Moderator)
Critique:

I would change "No Credibility" to: questionable credibility. Or, provide detail as to why they have no cred - in legal terms.

And change, "the only city (stupid enough)" to something else more tactful - lacking foresight, or something.

In my opinion, you should keep personal views out of the correspondence.

I would get a petition going with signatures from all (or most) residents of that neighborhood.

I would also add something to the effect of: better safe than sorry.

You might provide some explanation as to your expertise in this matter - if they are not already aware.

Otherwise looks good.

You asked, so there it is.
 
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#3,903 ·
I agree with Brian, additionally I've learned to avoid terms like: everyone, always, never and those that define a situation by no less than 100% as from a legal standpoint it only takes 1 smart person in a million stupit people to nullify "everyone in that group is stupid". I think a petition is a great idea, we may have to do just that to get the sheriff to patrol our neighborhood for speeders.

You could also get the news involved, I realize that area doesn't really frown on property destruction but such destruction needs to be performed by the right people to be promoted, I don't think propane is on the list.
 
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#3,904 · (Edited by Moderator)
Topa, Yeti - getting the News involved is WAY excellent idea.

Expanding on what Yeti wrote, if your tone is suggestive at all that those you are dealing with are incompetant, or lax in their duties, anything negative like that, they are going to ignore you. It is ok if you think that, but better to address them as competant people who Will get the job done.

Polite, professional, precise.

As to a petition, actually, you just need signatures, period, they dont even have to live in that neighborhood - just people who are backing you up, think you are working for the greater good. It aint like the City Council is gonna be checking up on all those people.

And the last sentence is KILLER, definitely keep that.
 
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#3,905 ·
Top Max- my revised version

Prior to the Shakeout Drill in 2020, I made an inquiry to the Washington State Emergency Management about the seismic evaluation of a 1,000-gallon propane tank that is surrounded by barriers adjacent to the 6-foot concrete wall. ( you need to state the inquiry's that you made )
They did not offer any safety procedures. All of these issues ( describe some of the issues and give the reader some of the concerns that you have over the code violations. ) The Backus Administration's
(Backus administration? I could not find it on Google)
The position is they all met existing standards when they were installed. Unfortunately, all the codes were adopted decades prior to the first violation in 2010.
People have told me that nothing like this would be allowed where they live. They ask if ( state the city that you are referring to) have a building department to enforce codes. We do and we are referred to the Mayor and city council in which I cannot get a satisfactory response to dangerous safety concerns. They are avoiding potential hazardous conditions, which is foreseeable by allowing concrete walls without an embedded foundation and barriers creating propane hazards risking whole neighborhoods.
An example of the hazard- The 1983 Buffalo, New York propane explosion resulted in 7 fatalities and 150 injuries. It completely leveled a four-story building and demolished many buildings on four different blocks. It seriously damaged buildings that were over half a mile away. The cause was the valve breaking off of a 125-gallon tank. These damages are significantly greater than my 1,000-gallon damage area based on NOAA first responder safety warnings. We can expect many valves to break off as tanks roll around Auburn during a seismic disruption.
The State Hazard Mitigation Officer said unfortunately the State cannot help with this situation. The enforcement of these codes needs to happen at the city level. The only advice provided is to continue to raise awareness. The first responders and CERT volunteers to whom this would be a serious hazard. Getting more community voices behind an issue that could severely impact them is always a good option for helping to bring about safety-related changes.
The potential threat is foreseeable and preventable and I ask that you reach out and request that immediate safety codes be updated and implemented.

Best of success to you and thx for trying to make society a safer place to live.
 
#3,907 · (Edited by Moderator)
Much better! That reads as courteous and polite. Just one suggestion, break up that big block of text in the center into smaller segments/paragraphs - easier to read. For instance, new para at: "An example of the hazard…...."

Still think you should add something like: I am so and so and I have 40 yrs experience in such and such business….. This would give you some tech cred and not allow them to assume you are just a neighbor complaining or something.

Top Max- my revised version

Prior to the Shakeout Drill in 2020, I made an inquiry to the Washington State Emergency Management about the seismic evaluation of a 1,000-gallon propane tank that is surrounded by barriers adjacent to the 6-foot concrete wall. ( you need to state the inquiry's that you made )
They did not offer any safety procedures. All of these issues ( describe some of the issues and give the reader some of the concerns that you have over the code violations. ) The Backus Administration's
(Backus administration? I could not find it on Google)
The position is they all met existing standards when they were installed. Unfortunately, all the codes were adopted decades prior to the first violation in 2010.
People have told me that nothing like this would be allowed where they live. They ask if ( state the city that you are referring to) have a building department to enforce codes. We do and we are referred to the Mayor and city council in which I cannot get a satisfactory response to dangerous safety concerns. They are avoiding potential hazardous conditions, which is foreseeable by allowing concrete walls without an embedded foundation and barriers creating propane hazards risking whole neighborhoods.
An example of the hazard- The 1983 Buffalo, New York propane explosion resulted in 7 fatalities and 150 injuries. It completely leveled a four-story building and demolished many buildings on four different blocks. It seriously damaged buildings that were over half a mile away. The cause was the valve breaking off of a 125-gallon tank. These damages are significantly greater than my 1,000-gallon damage area based on NOAA first responder safety warnings. We can expect many valves to break off as tanks roll around Auburn during a seismic disruption.
The State Hazard Mitigation Officer said unfortunately the State cannot help with this situation. The enforcement of these codes needs to happen at the city level. The only advice provided is to continue to raise awareness. The first responders and CERT volunteers to whom this would be a serious hazard. Getting more community voices behind an issue that could severely impact them is always a good option for helping to bring about safety-related changes.
The potential threat is foreseeable and preventable and I ask that you reach out and request that immediate safety codes be updated and implemented.

Best of success to you and thx for trying to make society a safer place to live.

- Desert_Woodworker
 
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#3,921 ·
Had a customer with save the environment stickers all over back of vehicle. Check engine light is on. Needs a new catalytic converter. $1300 worth.

Wants to know if they can keep driving it for another year. Budget constraints.

So what about that save the environment stuff??
 
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#3,922 ·
DW electric fire place below?

Pottz The "crap" comment came from a LJ comment to my looking for General Finishes satin.. - that is my weird sense of humor to now call GF finishes Crap, when I know they are not. Maybe not the best but deff not crap. I am still experimenting with finishes. I was told to look for my local "wood coatings" dealer. Nothing in Ft. Myers pops up when I search that term.

WBBN that is funny. BTW lots of double standards out there. Hope this is not too political, I have NYC liberal friends. Great people…So one day she is lecturing me about global warming…I say you have 4 homes that you have the heat or a/c running all year, how is your carbon footprint?.....no reply at all.
 
#3,924 · (Edited by Moderator)
Had a customer with save the environment stickers all over back of vehicle. Check engine light is on. Needs a new catalytic converter. $1300 worth.

Wants to know if they can keep driving it for another year. Budget constraints.

So what about that save the environment stuff??

- woodbutcherbynight
That's only preached when it befits the preacher, stickers are cheap, actual maintenance usually isn't.
 
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#3,925 ·
Pottz- for the audience what actually is that stuff you refer to as crap? for learning purposes…

Petey- it appears that you could put an electric fireplace below?

- Desert_Woodworker
were joking about how capn klutz said general finishes products are crap.some of best stuff ive ever used,imho.petey likes it.
 
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#3,926 ·
Thanks for proofreading and the suggestions guys. That goes to the city council meeting public comments and is limited to 350 words. I did change "no" to "generally" and "stupid" to "callus." Normally I use the psychological definition of stupid instead of the word; conscious and willful ignoring fact motivated by greed, narcissism, and tribal instincts. Being limited to 350 words I chose the term. I'm not worried about them ignoring me these days, this BS started a decade ago. The local news media ignores their negligence. I asked one of the reporters about it. He said the city says everything met standards when it was installed. Since that is all they will say, he says he has nothing to pursue. He could verify facts, eh?

I cannot find out who the insurance company is. I am sure they would issue a correct and not renew the policy if it were not fixed. I have been trying to find out if the insurance industry is interested in this and cities that ignore codes, but haven't had much of a response. Insurance companies and FEMA should not have to mop up the mess after an earthquake or wildfire.

I intended to go to all the neighbors, but the coronavirus lockdown started about the time I finally consulted an attorney. He advised talking in person rather than sending notices. I can say a lot more things to the media and gubbermint than I can to the neighbors. Not exactly sure why because everything I say to the gubbemint is public record available to anyone who cares to read it.

A nephew who is a sheriff has looked into the code enforcement issues. He said it is a form of fraud but nobody in this state will do anything. It will take an investigation by the FBI. The Whitehouse sent it to the EPA, but the Seattle office claimed no jurisdiction. My US representative's office checked on the FBI complaint\ but they could not make them pursue it.

I have been told I am not a credible witness without a college degree. I may have gained a little credibility 2 weeks ago. Several times I have mentioned a 12-foot tall retaining wall at a 3-year-old housing development that is made of loose landscaping blocks. It is beginning to show signs of stress and failure. After the last meeting, the mayor told the building department director to contact me. I sent some pictures. Maybe they will start to believe what geologists say about reinforced concrete structures and what the code says about retaining walls being required to have a 1.5 safety factor. I do see the mathematical calculation of the safety factor may still be an issue, however; 1.5×0 = 0.
 
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