+1 on the jokes

so you think the vaccine killed him? he probably already had the virus when he got the shot,plus the first one only gives a partial amount of protection.i dont think we should assume the vaccine was what caused his death.we dont need too discourage people from getting vaccinated,that would be a bigger mistake imho.

- pottz

+1 good advice. I am getting the vaccination on the 30th… There are a plethora of stories out there claiming the side effect in a negative manner… I am praying for protection and guidance that it will go well…

Question anyone here get the vaccination yet?

 

+1 on the jokes

so you think the vaccine killed him? he probably already had the virus when he got the shot,plus the first one only gives a partial amount of protection.i dont think we should assume the vaccine was what caused his death.we dont need too discourage people from getting vaccinated,that would be a bigger mistake imho.

- pottz

+1 good advice. I am getting the vaccination on the 30th… There are a plethora of stories out there claiming the side effect in a negative manner… I am praying for protection and guidance that it will go well…

Question anyone here get the vaccination yet?

- Desert_Woodworker

as soon as i can,im 60 so right now it's 75+ hopefully in the next round,probably a couple months out yet,there way behind here in calif,nothing i didn't expect.

 

Bet possible doctored photo…

 

I would imagine that a compound like the WH would need maintenance/construction/something almost daily. So a truck doesn't do much for me. I also watched the video. Also didnt see much but I'm not all that up on want it supposed to look like.

If it was actually a fake Oval Office, I still don't care. Probably have a reason for it.

It will come out if it was. A group that big couldn't hold a secret like that for more than 35 minutes. That's why the "rigged" election is so laughable. It would take 100s possibly 1000s of people to pull it off. And all of them kept their mouth shut? Not a chance.

 

Question anyone here get the vaccination yet?

- Desert_Woodworker

as soon as i can,im 60 so right now it s 75+ hopefully in the next round,probably a couple months out yet,there way behind here in calif,nothing i didn t expect.

- pottz

IMO- it will take a while, a month or 2 but they're making progress… People today want it now or even yesterday.
We have been aware of COVID for almost a year- the reality of the virus is it's real…

 

I would imagine that a compound like the WH would need maintenance/construction/something almost daily. So a truck doesn't do much for me. I also watched the video. Also didnt see much but I'm not all that up on want it supposed to look like.

If it was actually a fake Oval Office, I still don't care. Probably have a reason for it.

It will come out if it was. A group that big couldn't hold a secret like that for more than 35 minutes. That's why the "rigged" election is so laughable. It would take 100s possibly 1000s of people to pull it off. And all of them kept their mouth shut? Not a chance.

- CWWoodworking

+1 ive seen many times trucks or equipment at the white house doing repairs or whatever,if ya wanna see something "suspicous" i guess you will.

 

Question anyone here get the vaccination yet?

- DesertWoodworker

as soon as i can,im 60 so right now it s 75+ hopefully in the next round,probably a couple months out yet,there way behind here in calif,nothing i didn t expect.

- pottz

IMO- it will take a while, a month or 2 but they re making progress… People today want it now or even yesterday.
We have been aware of COVID for almost a year- the reality of the virus is it s real…

- DesertWoodworker

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

 

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

- pottz

Here in Georgia you have better chance of winning lottery.

LOL

 

Interesting discussion.

Pottz in Fla it is 65+ (I am not that old) and 65+ in fla. is a LOT of people!

I can wait.

Did not know Hank was vaccinated days before he died. Robert Kennedy you tube DW (I think posted) might be an omen.

Men beat the lady's today.

 

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

- pottz

Here in Georgia you have better chance of winning lottery.

LOL

- woodbutcherbynight

yeah what happened to operation "warp speed",apparently the government has a different meaning too that term.

 

So, what am I saying here? Nothing, because I dont live there, so the theater show doesnt affect me personally.

- wildwoodbybrianjohns

While I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory I would venture a guess into security protocol realm. Number of things could be used. Might be the glass can be programmed for different backgrounds, or turned on and off as needed. That would be more for aesthetic than security. Or they might be at alternative location, again using the tech to mask the true location. Or it could just be a truck on the lawn that is doing work recently ordered.

Considering the events of the past month enhanced security protocols would be advisable. Someone in his position would be foolish to not listen to such advice. No uncommon among world leaders to do so.

Something that really bugs me is the security around Congress. Amazing that a group got in without heavy firepower and were able to stay in for hours and act as if they were at a museum. What message or example did we leave for those who would consider a strike in a more forceful and destructive manner?

 

yeah what happened to operation "warp speed",apparently the government has a different meaning too that term.

- pottz

Captain, Warp Drive is currently offline. LOL

 

Question anyone here get the vaccination yet?

- DesertWoodworker

as soon as i can,im 60 so right now it s 75+ hopefully in the next round,probably a couple months out yet,there way behind here in calif,nothing i didn t expect.

- pottz

IMO- it will take a while, a month or 2 but they re making progress… People today want it now or even yesterday.
We have been aware of COVID for almost a year- the reality of the virus is it s real…

- DesertWoodworker

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

- pottz

I am going with the school district that I work for 1B - they have a school site for the teachers… Hey they got to get the schools open. Otherwise, things are about the same here as to where you guys live. They post-government web info and when you try to get an appointment- none available… the same runaround in FL where my Mom lives.

It will eventually get us the jab - there is some push back but they will figure a way to get people…

 

WBBN,

I don't know what "normal" security for the capital building is. Having said that, I do think no security is "off" the mark for any reasonable group of people in charge of securing that building.

I have a friend that retired from the S.S. White House division. I will ask him.

 

Considering the events of the past month enhanced security protocols would be advisable. Someone in his position would be foolish to not listen to such advice. No uncommon among world leaders to do so.

Something that really bugs me is the security around Congress. Amazing that a group got in without heavy firepower and were able to stay in for hours and act as if they were at a museum. What message or example did we leave for those who would consider a strike in a more forceful and destructive manner?

- woodbutcherbynight

I'll back to this tonight- great point to discuss…

 

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

- pottz

Here in Georgia you have better chance of winning lottery.

LOL

- woodbutcherbynight

Old people here in Indiana.

I understand why frontline workers and old people should get it first. But if the problem is getting enough people lined up, give it one more week and open it up to 100% of public. Those 2 groups of people will not get herd immunity and that should be goal 1.

 

yeah what happened to operation "warp speed",apparently the government has a different meaning too that term.

- pottz

Captain, Warp Drive is currently offline. LOL

- woodbutcherbynight

scotty has informed me were running low on dilithium crystals resulting in a delay for warp speed!

 

whats the current protocol for who gets vaccinated where you are?

- pottz

Here in Georgia you have better chance of winning lottery.

LOL

- woodbutcherbynight

Old people here in Indiana.

I understand why frontline workers and old people should get it first. But if the problem is getting enough people lined up, give it one more week and open it up to 100% of public. Those 2 groups of people will not get herd immunity and that should be goal 1.

- CWWoodworking

seems the problem is getting the vaccine out to the various hospitals or sites providing it,not sure if the problem is slow production or just typical government screw ups.many here in california are calling for gov.newsom to be recalled.might happen,ask gray davis-lol.

 

WBBN,

I don t know what "normal" security for the capital building is. Having said that, I do think no security is "off" the mark for any reasonable group of people in charge of securing that building.

I have a friend that retired from the S.S. White House division. I will ask him.

- Peteybadboy

I really don't know either. My experience in military wants me to SECURE the building and take the fight right back at the aggressors. Hard and fast. That did not happen even when they did get organized. Way to many people walked away from that unscathed. Yeah sure they are going after people now and all. But that many got in, and stayed and then went back home. Security = epic fail, in my opinion.

 

scotty has informed me were running low on dilithium crystals resulting in a delay for warp speed!

- pottz

Our current speed is just short of Glacial.

 

When I referred to you all as wise guys, I was being sincere, not condescending. I thought I noticed something weird and was asking if you all did too, maybe too forcibly. I have done some more fact-checking - here is what I found:

Photo #1 The oval office
Photo #2 again, and in the background you can see some sort of house or building.
Photo #3 again, in the background you can see cars parked on a driveway.

So, it was a nothing burger, I made assumptions and was wrong, and I apologize for any misunderstanding. At the least, I was man enough to admit I was incorrect.

 

My understanding of WARP speed and distribution.

Warp speed was to develop the vaccine. Fed. Gov was responsible to get the vaccines to the Gov of each state. That Governor develops the plan for the state working with towns and counties, health care hospitals etc. (all states are different) to get the vaccine into arms. What in the cable TV industry called the last mile is the problem. Problems involved. Sub Zero storage, People taken from what job just to do Vaccines?, where to we give and organize vaccines?, how do we book appointments? Do we do walk ins stand in line? How do you provide security for "stand in line", who goes first? Is there enough needles? etc etc. (What we call a Sh$t show) because this is an epic scale event and never? done before on such scale?

 

When I referred to you all as wise guys, I was being sincere, not condescending. I thought I noticed something weird and was asking if you all did too, maybe too forcibly. I have done some more fact-checking - here is what I found:

Photo #1 The oval office
Photo #2 again, and in the background you can see some sort of house or building.
Photo #3 again, in the background you can see cars parked on a driveway.

So, it was a nothing burger, I made assumptions and was wrong, and I apologize for any misunderstanding. At the least, I was man enough to admit I was incorrect.

- wildwoodbybrianjohns

Perhaps, but you hardly came off as condescending, you asked a question. We offered opinions, nobody threatened anyone and for me it gave pause for thought.

If you think that is really the answer though consider this. The information you found came from where? Online? Play devils' advocate and be the guy responsible for security. What steps would you take to keep sensitive info from being so easily accessed and disseminated? ONLY way to know is on site recon. We do this all the time for special operations all over the world. Even have teams specially trained to just get intell and report back. Why not just use aerial photos or sat images? In WW2 we used cardboard fake tanks, personal carriers, trucks, and jeeps as well as false radio chatter to keep the Germans busy, and it worked. Doesn't need to be high tech.

We have think tanks that dream such situations up everyday. And then have to come up with plans to defend. It is like football, you never know when the other team is going to run a trick play and catch you with your pants down.

My old CO would often say, an ounce of prevention is worth a ton of reaction.

 

CW, really? Look at the photo of Trump at his desk. Are you telling me that it is normal/acceptable/realistic for someone to park a truck on that lawn. Pretty sure security protocol alone would prohibit such a thing. Also, there cannot possibly be a car parked in front of a house on the Whitehouse lawn, ya know, because the Whitehouse is like surrounded by a fence and stuff, and then there are all the trees!!! Ever been there? It is a rather large lawn, and no little house type buildings are even close - unless they built one in three days. LOl.

Link to the video. Watch it for yourselves. Notice the moulding around the windows, notice the colour of the sash(which has always been white), notice where the people exit the office and what is outside of the doorway. Notice how the feed cuts away exactly when you see what is outside. That is NOT the Oval Office Biden is signing EO´s in. It is theater, ie., fake.

- wildwoodbybrianjohns

That truck is beside a small hedge, most like a driveway. I doubt if they installed a driveway on the lawn outside the Oval Office. Most likely, Biden hasn't found the fortitude to octuply it yet.

 

https://mynorthwest.com/2465657/most-states-vaccinating-people-washington/

WE don't have to worry about vaccination in WA one way or the other. The state's incompetence continues to lead the "free world." The last was several billion dollars in fraudulent unemployment claims paid while many unemployed with ligament claims are ignored.