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Welcome to Lumber Jocks Saw Swap 2014.

All input and advice are welcome to make this a great experience.

We can make saw from kits, repurpose saws, make your own
from different suppliers, and basically have fun making a useful
saw for your shop.

Sign up, details to follow.

This is a skill building and sharing quest. You can post pictures anytime and if you're in
an impasse or want to know how's the best way to do something we'll help
the best we can.

Fellow LJer's may offer Kits and Parts or anything to help make a successful
saw swap. Send me an email so I can put you on the vendor's list.

If anyone would like a specific saw please let me know and we'll
accomodate.

Out of pocket expenses should be around $75.00

My email is: waho6o9@yahoo.com

4 months should be enough time to make a saw
we'll trade October 1st. Send a picture around Sept. 1st.

Lumber Jock Vendors:

http://lumberjocks.com/messages/new/ErikF
Dovetail 10" 15tpi rip 1 ½" at the toe, 1 ¾" at the heel.
• Full kit- two screw sets, complete and assembled plate/back, set and sharpened: $60.00
• Full kit- two screw sets, complete and assembled plate/back, punched plate: $45.00
• Copper adds $7.00.

Tenon Saw 12" 12tpi rip/x-cut 2 ÂĽ" at the toe, 2 5/8" at the heel.
• Full kit- two screw sets, complete and assembled plate/back, set and sharpened: $65.00 rip
• Full kit- two screw sets, complete and assembled plate/back, punched plate: $50.00 rip
• X-Cut add $7.50 to the sharpened and set kit.
• Copper adds $7.00.

More saws available, please contact me or Erik.

Vendors:
http://www.onlinemetals.com/

Kits can be had from:
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/item/GT-BOWS.XX/Gramercy_Tools_Turning_Saw_Parts
http://blackburntools.com/new-tools/new-saws-and-related/slotted-back-saw-kits/index.html
http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/CiantiM/Tillotson-02/tillotson-02-01.asp
http://www.bontzsawworks.net/home/build-a-saw-kit/

Some templates:
http://www.tgiag.com/saw-handle-scans.html
http://www.blackburntools.com/articles/saw-handle-templates/index.html
http://www.wenzloffandsons.com/faq/36-saw-kit-tech/71-saw-patterns.html

Andy's saw talk series:
http://lumberjocks.com/Brit/blog/series/4708
 
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Little bit of shop time tonight workin' on my first backsaw. Not intended for the swap, unless I get lazy and don't make another saw lol My 10" dovetail saw kit turned into a 9" dovetail saw when I accidentally sliced an angle off of the front of the saw rather than the back (note to self, next time check tooth direction BEFORE cutting the corner off)

Otherwise, got the spine straightened, plate straightened, and got that all polished up and ready to go. Now I just have to finish shaping the tote…
 

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#236 · (Edited by Moderator)
Joseph - British saws traditionally had European beech handles, and a few of their high end saws used mahogany and even ebony. The early American saws used American beech in the British tradition, but later switched to apple. You'll see a few American saws with walnut, cherry, and on high end saws rosewood. Later lower quality American saws went back to beech.

As important as species is grain orientation. Saw handles should be quarter sawn so the grain runs across the short axis of the handle when looking from the end, and of course looking from the side the grain should run parallel to the direction you push the saw.

As for woods to be used or avoided, any relatively dense hardwood would make a decent saw handle. Pourous woods like oak are not too desirable. Most of the tropical hardwoods are great.
 
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Bob… im laughing. I tend to overthink my posts. That post BEGAN as a post about grain direction, but then I got talking about wood choice, then went back and deleted the first part… doh!

Thanks for covering that. I see now why people are talking about resawing then getting started on handle.

Box of wood coming your way this weekend, I promise. I'm terrible about such things…
 
#238 · (Edited by Moderator)
Really, I only meant re-sawing in the sense of dimensioning the lumber from 8/4 to 4/4. In my shop, the woods to choose are those UNDER 13% moisture content. :(

Anyhow…love this Tyzack saw (especially since it was just re-sharpened by Mark Harrell), but hate the tote…

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It's garish IMO. I can fit all 5 fingers in the hand hole, not 3. And it's spray painted. The saw isn't very old or collectible, so I've been wanting to replace the tote for a while. Good excuse to get some practice for The Swap! LOL.

Just started this afternoon, should be easy to guess the wood…

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Big Thanks to TGIAG for the vintage Tyzack template…
 

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#241 · (Edited by Moderator)
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Joseph - in spite of Richard's dirty mind, you want your middle, ring, and pinkie fingers in the hole, your thumb of course wrapped around the back part of the handle, and your index finger along the right side of the handle (assuming you're right handed) to help guide the cut.
 

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#242 ·
Thanks, Bob, for showing us the proper way to hold a hand saw…especially a short joinery saw.

I'm convinced that the hand hole slowly became larger over the years, so the average user could fit his whole hand in there. I think the Marketing Dept. slowly gained more input on the finished product, over the actual maker or professional user.

Heck, by 1960-1970 who was using a hand saw anyway? A few hardcore ol' timers and hobbyists? :)