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New Sysport design... Feedback appreciated

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Hello Lumberjocks, I have been lurking for years and have benefitted greatly from seeing your projects and watching your discussions. Thank you!

I have been working on a new Sysport and before I start making dust I would like to see if you could improve on my ideas. An image from my SketchUp model is attached.

There is a series of training videos from Australia and the wall in the background of that video has influenced my design. (pic attached)

I also need to replace the small parts storage that will be lost by putting the cabinet on this wall. I included a picture because I have loved that I can see what is in the Tupperware containers. In the new design I will build wood boxes with acrylic fronts for screws, nails, and misc "stuff". Being able to grab the box of 2" #9's and take them to another part of the shop has worked well for me. I will probably make a combination of full depth and half depth drawers to increase density.

Have you used Sortainers? Obviously, those could give me more drawers in the same space. Maybe a combination of the two?

The parts boxes will be 105mm tall so they are interchangeable with a Sys 1 box.

I like the place above to store (display?) commonly used tools without going to the Systainer. But there is a chance that over time those will be replaced by more Systainers… (see upper right corner)

Would you build that cabinet in two parts (top half/bottom half) to allow for flexibility in case my needs change?

LR-32 or not… since I am mixing T-Loc and Sys3 units, will the LR-32 give me the flexibility I need or am I better off just mounting the drawer slides exactly where I need them?

I doubt I will go with the green stripe in the back. It was put there to show that there actually is a back since it looks the same color as the wall (it is not the same color). Shown in gray melamine but thinking about wood as well…

Casters or no casters?

Also included a picture of the drawer build. I built a mock up and love how securely the Systainer rests in the grooves. This means I don't have to build sides on the individual drawers as I have done previously.

FYI, the dude in the pics is 6'4" for reference. As am I… but he is skinnier.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Vince

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#2 ·
I'm getting ready to build the same thing. As soon as I stop going in circles about specifics, I'll start cutting. Many of the things will have to be decided by you to fit how you like to work.

If you haven't seen it already Festool has a document that specs out the details. You can find it here.

Sortainers are awesome. The key is finding a combination that works for you. There aren't a huge number of different configurations. But they do fit into a wall unit nicely.

Regarding your question about top/bottom halves, the PDF I linked to calls out a 1 meter max height. I'm sure that's based on the strength of the materials they call for, so if you're doing a custom design you can account for that. I'm planning to do mine in two pieces, upper and lower.

As for 32mm or not, I plan to use 32mm. The PDF linked has a table that calls out how many 32mm holes are needed for both the SYS 1 thru 5 and the new SYS3. Combined with the 5mm euro screws I think it'll make a more flexible long-term solution.

I plan to use casters. If I were doing a fairly permanent wall unit like you're showing, I probably wouldn't.
 
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Put a back on it and attach to the cross struts and verticals to prevent wracking.
Meself, i prefer varied shelf storeage units that you csn see into. Unless you're really anal, you'll still have to rummage to find what part is in what bin in which container.
You can't really see whats in the bins when stacked. I look at things like this as long term "dead" storage, more than active life storage for parts in a busy shop. Rummaging thru identical bins/drawers/boxes is an exercise in frustration. Make them all different so your minds pattern recognition aids in recalling just which bin its in.
I built a bench-side storage unit with modular bins. the finger holes were cut in different shapes and locations so you could easily identify the correct bin no matter how the bins were arrainged. Rows and rows of all the same is harder to recall than rows and rows of all different.
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