(mispost pls ignore)

 

I ve been using Yonica 1/2" shank bowl bits and they have performed great. The set Jim shows above look good and feel sets are good way to get introduced to all the different profiles.

- JRsgarage

I do like the look of the set Jim linked. Has a few more interesting bits that'd be fun to play around with.

Only "concern" is that they claim YG8 carbide (which apparently equates to C10). While the Yonico claim to be C3. So assuming all that's accurate, the Yonico seem like they'd be the better "quality". Although they do cost a little more for 10 less bits.

Ugh. Why can't this be easy, lol.

 

Yonico is 0 for 4 for me. Roundover, big chamfer, straight, and slot cutter.

All ended up in the trash after one project or less.

The big chamfer bit didn't make it through one table top.

 

Yonico is 0 for 4 for me. Roundover, big chamfer, straight, and slot cutter.

All ended up in the trash after one project or less.

The big chamfer bit didn't make it through one table top.

- CWWoodworking

What were the issues you had with them? Poor cut quality, burning, etc?

 

Semi-related note, has anyone bought from the vendor Routerbitworld? Either direct or through amazon?

The whiteside 7 piece basic set is hanging on towards the top of my list. Holbren happens to sell on Amazon as well, but only has the 1/4" shank set. Would really prefer to go 1/2", which are available on Amazon for the same price ($130). But the seller is Routerbitworld.

Oh, and I'm interested specifically in what I can get through Amazon, because I have around $80 in credit just begging to leave my "wallet".

 

Semi-related note, has anyone bought from the vendor Routerbitworld? Either direct or through amazon?

- Wood_Scraps

I bougth several bits ans well as a few saw blades form Router Bit world, and have nothing but good things to say about them. They have excellent customer service, and a good selection of products. I highly recommend them. (I've always bought direct from them.)

 

I bougth several bits ans well as a few saw blades form Router Bit world, and have nothing but good things to say about them. They have excellent customer service, and a good selection of products. I highly recommend them. (I ve always bought direct from them.)

- Fred Hargis

Awesome. That makes the decision a little bit easier.

 

Definitely curious about the Yonico bits.

Are they really any different than the 99 other ones that look just like it under some other Chinese name on amazon? That place is a cesspool of the same damn tool/gadget/whatever rebadged by everyone and their brother.

- Wood_Scraps

Same question here since long ago, and I suspect the answer is no. Initially I thought maybe the "99 other" are knockoffs that look very similar. But the funny thing is that they have the same size ranges, same (yellow) color and mostly the same pictures in the product description. I believe they all come from the same factory, other with a curstom brand printed on the bit (banggood sells the same bits as "drillpro") others with no brand.

I have had very good luck with the cheap yellow yonico-like bits from china (ebay and aliexpress usually have the lowest prices if you don't mind the waiting time), but only with the small and medium sizes. The large ones (in volume or blade length) seem to not work so well - maybe it is the bit quality, my underpowered router, me or who knows what else.

Another thing to consider is that while you are learning, it is easy to ruin a bit, so it is better to start off with a cheaper choice. Later you can upgrade to something more expensive, starting with the bits that you use more often.

 

I replied earlier that I had "mixed" results with the Yonico from Amazon.

I think I have bought about 10 of these bits, two of which were "duds".

One larger bit is horribly out of balance, but still cuts good. I just use it at the lowest RPM my router will go to and live with it. The other, a lock-miter bit dulled after the first use. I'm not one to return things unless they really pi$$ me off 8^)

The large bit was needed right away so I could complete a project, the other bit sat in the drawer for several months before I tried it.

Either way, with the cheap bits come low expectations.

 

Only "concern" is that they claim YG8 carbide (which apparently equates to C10). While the Yonico claim to be C3. So assuming all that s accurate, the Yonico seem like they d be the better "quality". Although they do cost a little more for 10 less bits.

- Wood_Scraps

Yonico bits obviously come from China and I know the factory they get them from. I'm not going to comment on quality but wanted to say China uses their own grading of carbide such as YG8 and a claim of C3 is just transferring the Chinese grade to something they think is equivalent. The hardness of the carbide is one thing and but what's really important is the composition of the carbide and the grain size. When carbide dulls the edge doesn't fold over like steel you loose grains so the smaller the grain the sharper you can make it and the longer it will usually last. The last comment I'll make is I don't know what Yonico is dong on their bits but some Chinese suppliers will use recycled carbide unless you request virgin carbide.

Ionic

 

Yonico bits obviously come from China and I know the factory they get them from. I m not going to comment on quality but wanted to say China uses their own grading of carbide such as YG8 and a claim of C3 is just transferring the Chinese grade to something they think is equivalent. The hardness of the carbide is one thing and but what s really important is the composition of the carbide and the grain size. When carbide dulls the edge doesn t fold over like steel you loose grains so the smaller the grain the sharper you can make it and the longer it will usually last. The last comment I ll make is I don t know what Yonico is dong on their bits but some Chinese suppliers will use recycled carbide unless you request virgin carbide.

Ionic

- Holbren

Appreciate the insight! China is definitely a grab bag. They can produce some quality stuff. But it's overshadowed by the metric ton of garbage they churn out.

On an unrelated note, are you affiliated with Holbren? I bought my last Ridge Carbide TS blade from you and love it. You guys were great to do business with.

I see you also sell on Amazon, but only have the Whiteside 7pc set in the 1/4" shank. Do you ever sell the 1/2" version on Amazon? Would like to buy from you all again, but really set on using up my amazon credit balance for a portion of this purchase.

 

Yonico is 0 for 4 for me. Roundover, big chamfer, straight, and slot cutter.

All ended up in the trash after one project or less.

The big chamfer bit didn't make it through one table top.

- CWWoodworking

What were the issues you had with them? Poor cut quality, burning, etc?

- Wood_Scraps

Yes.

The chamfer was so bad it wouldn't cut soft maple. Even with the smallest of cuts.

 

Yes.

The chamfer was so bad it wouldn't cut soft maple. Even with the smallest of cuts.

- CWWoodworking

Good to know. I just pulled the trigger, and decided to go quality over quantity. 7 piece basic set from Whiteside should be here on Saturday

 

Depends on the profile for me. If it s one I ll use frequently always Whiteside, the heavier carbide, and excellent build quality allow them to re-sharpen a few times, actually making them lower priced than others.

For one of s and less use, I, like many here use the Yonico bits from Amazon. I ve not been disappointed yet.

- therealSteveN

I keep going back and forth on what I ll do. Was thinking no set. But now thinking to give a larger Yonico set a shot, and then just replace the ones I use most with Whitside or comparable.

- WoodScraps

I am a very firm NO SET kinda guy, if there is an option to get exactly what I need. My experience both personal, and what I have seen is to save 5 bux to get the set "deal" you are buying 55 bux worth of profiles you won't use at all, or very rarely. The most individual bits I remember using on an entire project was 7, and they wouldn't have been in anybody's set. It requires planning, so you will have them when you need them, but that is the only ding I give this plan, over sets.

Whiteside does have a few "sets" that I have gotten. Plywood sized Dado bits 1/4, hardly ever use it, 1/2 and 3/4 use both of them a lot. Stuff like that, but those 348 bit suitcase things are a lot of loser bits IMHO.

Only "concern" is that they claim YG8 carbide (which apparently equates to C10). While the Yonico claim to be C3. So assuming all that s accurate, the Yonico seem like they d be the better "quality". Although they do cost a little more for 10 less bits.

- WoodScraps

Yonico bits obviously come from China and I know the factory they get them from. I m not going to comment on quality but wanted to say China uses their own grading of carbide such as YG8 and a claim of C3 is just transferring the Chinese grade to something they think is equivalent. The hardness of the carbide is one thing and but what s really important is the composition of the carbide and the grain size. When carbide dulls the edge doesn t fold over like steel you loose grains so the smaller the grain the sharper you can make it and the longer it will usually last. The last comment I ll make is I don t know what Yonico is dong on their bits but some Chinese suppliers will use recycled carbide unless you request virgin carbide.

Ionic

- Holbren

Brian, dat U?

 

After a little shipping delay with Amazon, the Whiteside basic set showed up today. First impression is that these are really high quality bits. Which really isn't a surprise.

I know they come with some plastic/oil coating. Once I take that off, is there anything specific I need to do to care for them in terms of oil?

I keep my TS in great shape with some TufGlide (gun protectant). Even wipe down my normal drill bits with it after every use. Thinking the same will work for the Whiteside router bits. But curious if there's anything else I need to do to care for them.

 

well will check out the validity of the Yonico bits i just received a bowl bit, for a little project i'm planning, hope of get a chance to use this week
rj in az

 

Rockler (and others I'm sure) sell a handy pin oiler which is great for giving any bearings a shot of oil every now and then (be sure they are sawdust free first).

 

Rockler (and others I m sure) sell a handy pin oiler which is great for giving any bearings a shot of oil every now and then (be sure they are sawdust free first).

- splintergroup

Hmm. Was thinking more about the bits, but the bearing is a good callout. I've got some needle oil bottles that should work.

 

Remove that coating and you're good to go. Only maintenance might be to clean any pitch off that might build up in use (and oil the bearings on occasion),

 

Remove that coating and you re good to go. Only maintenance might be to clean any pitch off that might build up in use (and oil the bearings on occasion),

- Fred Hargis

That works for me. Mainly asked because I recall seeing someone posting about their Whiteside bit rusting pretty quickly.

Pitch is a given I expect to deal with. Have had good success with a 50/50 mix of laundry detergent and water. Then a light wipe down with my TufGlide stuff after.

Will definitely remember to keep an eye on bearing maintenance. Hadn't even been thinking about this. So glad I asked.

 

Got to use a couple of the Whiteside bits the other day. I'd say they're worth the cost. Great cut quality and it just slices through like butter. Can definitely tell it's cutting better and more efficiently. As the router and bits didn't get nearly as hot.