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Free Walnut from Craigslist

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I noticed that there was a free wood listing on Craigslist while I was at work today. I grabbed what was left on my way home. The person giving it away said it is Walnut . I'm a newb but assume the marks in the wood are stains from fungus or decay. I've seen people selling maple with this quality. Although I can see that the wood was on it's way to rotting, most of it is very dense and hard, even the stained sections. I chiseled some of the darker staining and noticed that it was superficial with thin lines in the end grain. You might be able to see in the photos.

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Here are some questions I have:

-Should this wood still be usable? If no, ignore the questions below.

-Should I dry it in log form or split it/saw it into quarters or some other dimension?

-Paint or wax the ends?

Where should it be stored?

-Is there anything I can do green with the limb wood. Is it suitable for spoons or carving?

-How would you mill it?

Eventually I will have a bandsaw with a 9" resaw capacity but I'm still in the process of restoring it. I'm hoarding cheap materials while I build my shop. Thanks for any advice!
 

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#2 ·
Based on what I can see of the bark, it doesn't look like Walnut to me. Looks like maybe Cherry?

In any case, if it's solid, it's useable. When I get pieces like that, I will either split them in half and remove the pith then seal both ends and the split/sawn face or I'll just seal the ends and leave it in that condition somewhere off the ground and out of direct elements to dry until I'm ready to use it. I use Anchorseal personally.

As far a carving it green, that's the best way to carve it. Give it a go!
 
#3 ·
I don't know what I'm looking for in identifying by the wood. There were a bunch of walnuts laying around and they are everywhere here in Cincinnati. I don't even know what a cherry tree looks like. Is it a form of wild cherry or what? I see so many people talk about cherry but I've never once come across one in Cincinnati.

I'm guessing that splitting it will reduce the drying time.
 
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Walnut is pretty much resistant to any kind of decay or virus/bacterium. But it is susceptible to insect attacks. If it has sat for a long time it'll have very little checking on the end. Although the sapwood will check. I don't think this is walnut… but you'll never know until you cut into it. Below is a couple pictures of what a walnut tree ought to look like after lying on the ground for three years. I've been cutting it up for bowl blanks on my Saturdays.

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#6 · (Edited by Moderator)
With no dark heartwood, I doubt it is walnut. It does look like it may have some spalting so you will probably get some interesting wood from it. Black cherry is a native cherry that pretty much grows in the same range that black walnut does so you may have them in your area too. They actually do bear edible cherries but they are usually too bitter.

My approach to spitting the wood is like Kenny's recommendation. Cut 1-2" slice from the center including the pith. Then take that slice and cut the middle ~2" out of it to remove the pith from that. This leaves you with 2 prime quarter sawn pieces from either side of the pith that are very stable and great for turning tool handles or even milling into 1/2 to 3/4" stock for making boxes. Even split, the 2 halves of the log will take a long time to dry. You will get faster drying once you mill it to your desired thickness. If you cannot process the chunks soon, seal the ends. I've had the best luck with Anchorseal. The Rockler green wood end seal is exactly the same thing and about half the price as Anchorseal. It is best to store it out of the weather and especially out of the sun. Don't be surprised if you see beetles emerge in a few weeks. If they were sitting outside or dead on the stump for a while, the beetles are very likely already there.

BTW, that one chunk looks like it has some vines growing on it. I cannot see it well enough to tell but be careful just in case it is poison ivy. Even old vines can cause a reaction.
 
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Ah. I never think of butternut because it is rare down here in the south and never in Texas unless planted. It is related to black walnut, the wood is lighter in color and is sometimes called white walnut. The nuts are similar but are oblong compared to the nearly round black walnuts. Butternut is an excellent carving wood. Probably second only to basswood.
 
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I have no idea about the wood species. I had a similar post about white oak in which the species was debated. Is there a more scientific method for identifying by grain and bark? It's discolored, hard as a rock, and is only checked on the outermost sapwood.
I don't have any specific plans and am open to suggestions. I just want to maximize the material and make nice things out of it. I don't have a lathe at the moment but am looking at one on Craigslist.

Is milling with a chainsaw the fastest method? Too wasteful? I have an 18in 220v bandsaw that can resaw 9 in. I'm in the process of replacing bearings and generally restoring it. I could buy a frame saw blade to break it down to bandsaw sized pieces.

I might just seal it with the rockler product and let it dry slowly. Is there any problem with this approach?
 
#11 ·
If those larger pieces are smaller than your 9" height… you could just wait till you get it done. So, yes, you'll want to wax the ends. If you don't have wax. Titebond II glue will work just as well for the time being and it is cheaper than Anchor seal.
 
#12 · (Edited by Moderator)
One way to ID a wood is to look at the end grain at magnification (10-30x is good). Take a sharp knife or chisel and cut the end grain smooth and compare to pictures on wood-database.com. It is a good source of information about different types of wood and they always have a close up of the end grain. Of course you need some idea what to compare to but you can start with ideas above. If you know what the leaves or fruit, nuts, seeds or flowers of the tree look like that makes it even easier.

EDIT: For large diameters or lengths too cumbersome on my bandsaw , I usually use my chainsaw to slice them. Since the primary goal to remove the center juvenile wood around the pith to minimizes cracking, you can waste that side of the cut to conserve the rest of the wood. The 2 quarter sawn pieces I mentioned above are just a bonus if you can get them.
 
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The reason that some flat sawn boards warp is because they usually do not bother to remove the pith. The juvenile wood around the pith, which is up to about the first 10 rings, depending upon species and how quickly the tree grew, is the biggest cause of warping so I try to remove as much of it as I can without sacrificing too much wood. If you can take a single ~2" slice from the center (and then remove the center 2" from that) , that is typically good enough in my experience.

You only need to coat the end grain. The moisture escapes much more quickly from the end grain than side grain and sealing it helps it to dry more evenly. That is why cracks typically start forming from the end first. If I mill a log into boards before it starts to crack, I usually don't bother coating the ends. Just removing the juvenile wood and properly stacking it with stickers and weight on top is usually good enough.
 
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Thanks everyone for sharing their knowledge. This is a really awesome forum.

Yeah I know I should just accept that I scored some free wood and not worry too much about it.

I only have a 14" chainsaw. My main concern is that I'd be wasting too much wood if I used it. Like Corec asked above, I'm wondering if I can freehand these cuts with a chainsaw. Maybe buy a narrow kerf ripping chain? Not sure that would save much material compared to the kerf a bandsaw would make.

I'd like to buy one of those Roubo frame saw kits but my wife would probably kill me.
 
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With logs, I'll often split then down the middle/offset by 1"-2" with my chainsaw (standard cross cut chain)
This gives me a flat surface for the bandsaw and the offset leaves the pith to be taken out with the two quarter sawn side boards when I get to that cut.

Unless you have a saw mill or a good jig to hold the log and resaw directly on a bandsaw, the chainsaw is about the fastest/easiest/most common way to go.
 
#21 ·
Update:

I am the Wood Butcher of Cincinnati! This is my first time doing this and I only have a 14" saw, so this is still a learning process for me. I already know the cuts suck. I'm hoping to improve but don't know how well I can do with this little saw.

So even a newb like myself can see that this is not walnut now that it is cut open. Does anyone have a guess now?

I'd like to know what cuts to make next. Should I cut away the checked ends and then seal it? Cut the pith out and discard? I guess I want to get little boards out of it. I could carve a bowl by hand I guess. I have some paraffin wax I was going to melt and brush on if that will work. Open to suggestions.

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#22 ·
Looks good. I would make one more cut. Unless you need a wide slab, I usually cut the pith out of the middle slab which yields 2 very nice pieces of quarter sawn wood. The first few rings are typically where cracks originate, at least the worst of them, and removing that center will reduce the chances that the 2 resulting "wings" will develop cracks.

I cannot really ID the wood but it sort of looks like a soft maple, perhaps silver maple?
 
#24 ·
Looks like you got a grab bag of a few different things, none of which look like walnut. Maple, possibly pecan or elm, and a couple others I am not sure about. The spalting is just starting so there isn't any issue with the wood being too punky at this point.

This wood gathering article may be helpful in answering some of the other stuff.
https://vanduynwoodwork.com/2019/08/26/wood-turning-blanks/