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As some of you have already heard, our planet has past the point of no return in carbon emissions. 400 ppm (parts per million).
What this means is that carbon, a greenhouse gas, is going to be holding in enough energy to raise the average temperature to a point that will precipitate other greenhouse gases like methane to release, (which is already happening on a grand scale). Methane is much worse than carbon. We could have stopped the carbon, but there's no stopping methane.
As coastlines are threatened, people will be relocating inland. Farming will at first become erratic with unseasonably cold and hot and dry. Storms will increase in number and strength. With mass migrations and global food shortage, no government will be able to help. Many will die, too many to bury. Disease and pestilence will follow.

If the oceans warm another couple degrees, the algae will die, then the plankton, then the small fish, then the large fish. That's one third of the world food supply right there.

You might not see it for a while, but you will definitely see it in the near future. Maybe not as I've laid it out above, but it will not be business as usual for us. If we survive.

Not very pleasant, but sometimes truth isn't. You want to give your kids an advantage. teach them survival in the wild, it'll be very valuable to them.

I know a lot of you don't believe that there is any problem with the climate, and that's fine, there isn't anything you could do about it if you believed it anyway. Not trying to start an argument, just wanted to let you all know that your lives are about to change dramatically and I wouldn't expect you'll hear much truth from the media about this.
 
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#480 ·
Fear not Obama and the EPA are doing everything to same the planet !!!! And in the process destroy the USA.

- BurlyBob
Just out of curiosity what percentage destroyed are we now? I mean he doesn't have much time left…
 
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#481 · (Edited by Moderator)
Fear not Obama and the EPA are doing everything to same the planet !!!! And in the process destroy the USA.

- BurlyBob

Just out of curiosity what percentage destroyed are we now? I mean he doesn t have much time left…

- RobS888
I think 17.43%

But Research shows that 47.23 % of statistics are made up on the spot :)
Mmmmmm Monday morning!
 
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#483 ·
The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax us citizens for our carbon footprints. Only two details stand in the way: the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate. The last two bitter winters have led to a rise in public awareness that there is no runaway global warming.

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Roger Revelle, who later apologized for sending the UN IPCC and Al Gore on this wild goose chase called global warming
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/the-amazing-story-behind-the-global-warming-scam.html
 
#484 · (Edited by Moderator)
The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax us citizens for our carbon footprints. Only two details stand in the way: the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate. The last two bitter winters have led to a rise in public awareness that there is no runaway global warming.

Roger Revelle, who later apologized for sending the UN IPCC and Al Gore on this wild goose chase called global warming
http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/the-amazing-story-behind-the-global-warming-scam.html

- waho6o9
What is it called when you only tell part of a story? Oh yeah LYING by omission.

A little history…
The existence of the greenhouse effect was argued for by Joseph Fourier in 1824. The argument and the evidence was further strengthened by Claude Pouillet in 1827 and 1838, and reasoned from experimental observations by John Tyndall in 1859. The effect was more fully quantified by Svante Arrhenius in 1896.[12][13]

In 1917 Alexander Graham Bell wrote "[The unchecked burning of fossil fuels] would have a sort of greenhouse effect", and "The net result is the greenhouse becomes a sort of hot-house."14[15] Bell went on to also advocate the use of alternate energy sources, such as solar energy.[16]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

Guy Stewart Callendar: Starting in the late 1930s, Callendar began publishing papers on anthropogenic carbon dioxide levels and their impact on temperature, incorporating information on CO2 production from coal burning, rising levels of carbon dioxide over time, and the uptake of CO2 by oceans and the biosphere.

Starting in the 1950s, Canadian and American physicist Gilbert Plass (1920-2004) echoed Callendar's conclusions that human impacts on the atmosphere have begun a period of global warming. Plass used a more sophisticated theoretical understanding of infrared absorption, and was an early user of computers to model the atmosphere.
http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/155263/

That article lies about when the greenhouse effect was researched. It claims it hasn't been proven. In the 40s it was noted that CO2 had an effect on all electromagnetic radiation. More CO2 less energy passes.

It lies about when it started by only 100 years and lies about the author retracting his research and conclusions. He asked that people calm down and watch for a decade or two.

Do you actually believe this?

What economic downturn and what cooling?
 
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#486 ·
Interestingly, I met a fellow a couple weeks ago that hears them knocking on trees and sees tracks every time he goes into the woods near my Tree Farm near Randle,WA. I'm not paying attention or too hard of hearing :-((
 
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#487 · (Edited by Moderator)
Interesting fact, Maryland is a hot bed for Bigfoot sightings.

- patcollins
I saw a bigfoot with a Chinese menu in his hand, he was Walking through the Inner Harbor in the rain. He was looking for the place called Lee Ho Fook's, Going to get a big dish of beef chow mein!

True story.
 
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#494 ·
If GW is happening why is the ice cap in Antarctica growing?

- rwe2156
Maybe it is trying to regrow that 100 mile long iceberg that broke off a while back. They put locator beacon on it because it was too inconvenient for ships to have to make 100 mile detours around it when it was in the shipping lanes ;-)
 
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If GW is happening why is the ice cap in Antarctica growing?

- rwe2156

Maybe it is trying to regrow that 100 mile long iceberg that broke off a while back. They put locator beacon on it because it was too inconvenient for ships to have to make 100 mile detours around it when it was in the shipping lanes ;-)

- TopamaxSurvivor
Do they track them? That would be funny to see where any large icebergs are.
 
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#497 · (Edited by Moderator)
If GW is happening why is the ice cap in Antarctica growing?

- rwe2156

Maybe it is trying to regrow that 100 mile long iceberg that broke off a while back. They put locator beacon on it because it was too inconvenient for ships to have to make 100 mile detours around it when it was in the shipping lanes ;-)

- TopamaxSurvivor

Do they track them? That would be funny to see where any large icebergs are.

- RobS888
That was several years ago. I remember them saying how inconvenient it was to have it drifting in the shipping lanes between Antarctica and Cape horn. I wondered if they put several locators on it? Never could find out much more about it. Having one location in the middle of a 100 mile long floating detour seems a bit pointless ;-)) I'm not sure if this is the same one I heard about or not, but it is 100 miles long ;-)
 
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Maybe it is trying to regrow that 100 mile long iceberg that broke off a while back. They put locator beacon on it because it was too inconvenient for ships to have to make 100 mile detours around it when it was in the shipping lanes ;-)

- TopamaxSurvivor

Do they track them? That would be funny to see where any large icebergs are.

- RobS888

That was several years ago. I remember them saying how inconvenient it was to have it drifting in the shipping lanes between Antarctica and Cape horn. I wondered if they put several locators on it? Never could find out much more about it. Having one location in the middle of a 100 mile long floating detour seems a bit pointless ;-)) I m not sure if this is the same one I heard about or not, but it is 100 miles long ;-)

- TopamaxSurvivor
There are some NASA sights that have the raw location data. They said they used satellite, beacons and fly overs to track the really big ones.

When I think of a hundred mile iceberg saint Brendan's tales don't sound so far fetched.
 
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#499 ·
When I think of a hundred mile iceberg saint Brendan s tales don t sound so far fetched.

- RobS888
Nothing seems far fetch anymore. I think Bigfoot is an alien beast checking on us. Aliens drop them off in that form so we can't capture them. If they were here full time we would have found more evidence than just a few tracks, hairs and blood containing unidentified primate DNA. I'm sure the space invaders are our offspring that escaped the inhospitable planet in the future. They finally totally mastered Einstein's theories including time travel. They return frequently to observe and document how we screwed up earth in order to avoid making the same mistakes again. They may be nearly out of hospitable planets to run to? ;-(( They stopped by here one night about 20 years ago. I was headed out to look at their ship. I had an aggressive dog to keep thieves out of my tools in my work van. When they made that dog yelp, stop barking and go lay down, I chickened out and didn't go see their ship. Now, run with that one Steven Spielberg ;-))
 
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Related question why do all the global warming alarmists pounce with "The ice cap is shrinking" line when it is?

- patcollins

Is that question exactly as you intended it?

- GregD
More or less, as you know if the ice cap was shrinking the argument would be "look the ice cap is shrinking, it is mans fault" but if it is growing the answer is "that doesn't mean anything, it is complicated".

Just as after hurricane Katrina the rhetoric spouted was "it is only going to get worse, expect this every year" to "the lack of large hurricanes hitting the US doesn't mean anything"

Not really commenting on the validity of either argument, just the technique of the argument.
 
#501 ·
When I think of a hundred mile iceberg saint Brendan s tales don t sound so far fetched.

- RobS888

Nothing seems far fetch anymore. I think Bigfoot is an alien beast checking on us. Aliens drop them off in that form so we can t capture them. If they were here full time we would have found more evidence than just a few tracks, hairs and blood containing unidentified primate DNA. I m sure the space invaders are our offspring that escaped the inhospitable planet in the future. They finally totally mastered Einstein s theories including time travel. They return frequently to observe and document how we screwed up earth in order to avoid making the same mistakes again. They may be nearly out of hospitable planets to run to? ;-(( They stopped by here one night about 20 years ago. I was headed out to look at their ship. I had an aggressive dog to keep thieves out of my tools in my work van. When they made that dog yelp, stop barking and go lay down, I chickened out and didn t go see their ship. Now, run with that one Steven Spielberg ;-))

- TopamaxSurvivor
Wow, you missed you calling in life. You should have been a fictional book writer. You could have made a millions.
 
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