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#1 ·
I saw the other threads in the forum regarding a CPAP nightstand design, but they seemed all just die off.

Most recent thread I saw was this:

I searched for the Amish CPAP furniture. Sorry. I'll have to pass. Who wants a 42" tall cabinet beside their bed?

There is a YouTuber who seems to have hit all the magic SEO keywords and she's been pushing her design with the sliding top:

At first I was excited by her design, but I've realized how impractical it is if you follow the recommended CPAP routine of removing the humidifier reservoir to be emptied out and left to air dry everyday. Furthermore the mask should also be at least wiped down everyday according to my neurologists' sleep tech. (She told me that I did not have to follow the manufacturers instructions to wash the mask everyday.)

Basically the mask and hose just can't be thrown in in the morning, and there has to be enough space to remove the reservoir in the morning, and the put back in before next use. If we've determined that for workbenches reaching more than 24" is bad, then the 24" sliding top of that nightstand is going to equally as bad.

Anyway, I'm refreshing this topic to see if anybody has other design ideas.
 
#3 ·
I had one years ago and couldn't stand having it huffing into my face. Coupled with fighting taking it off in the dark to go pee, I was done with it. If anyone can stand to use it, more power to them. Also, I think that the unit I had was recalled for blowing pieces of disintegrating foam into people's lungs. No sale. Having telemetry ratting me out for using it or not was icing on the cake.
 
#5 ·
Yup, I was prescribed the Airsense 11 as well. And it rats me out to the docs and the insurance company... I'm considering a Faraday cage as part of cabinet design so that it loses cell signal and I'll claim poor cell reception. :)

I was reading that about some CPAP users opting for the floor both for saving nightstand space, as well as, protection from rainout. One of the things I saw on Pinterest has a lower drawer setup.
 
#11 ·
I just read that there may be a pill released next year that helps with sleep apnea. I'm guessing the CPAP industry is going to fight it being approved. I've always thought the whole CPAP device is a kluge and they needed a more comfortable reliable solution, so I hope the pill will be equally effective.

I hate to travel with the stupid machine. Looking for distilled water in another part of the world can be a real adventure!
 
#12 ·
I hate to travel with the stupid machine. Looking for distilled water in another part of the world can be a real adventure!
I used water for the first couple months (I have a distiller). Then I tried it without water and couldn't tell a difference. Haven't used water since, and it's been over a year now. Maybe give it a try for a week and see if you can live without it.

And I hate the darn thing as well... but it turns out that it was something that really changed my life, so I live with it.

Cheers,
Brad
 
#13 ·
I think that the need for the humidifier is dependent on the climate of your bedroom. Currently with my bedroom humidity at 50%, the AS11 only uses about 90ml of it's 380ml capacity to get to its default 85% humidity. I can try getting my room humidity up to about 60% and turn off the AS11 humidifier to run without water. I'll do try that after my second week. I'm only a week into this CPAP adventure as of today.

My main goal for a CPAP nightstand is to hide the clutter of the machine and hose in the bedroom. A nice to have would be the have someplace to dry the water tub and mask until the time to use in the evening.

My new bench dog helped me make this on Sunday:
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And it lives in the bathroom:
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Not in the picture is the humidifier tub. The dowel is specifically at a height where the tub can be opened and hang across it and be supported by wipes and/or bottle of distilled water.

I don't know yet if I'll just have an open lower deck for the tub and mask drying in on theoretical new CPAP nightstand, or I'll put something like a speaker screens for airflow and hide things. Very likely the latter.

Any which way, I'd like to get stuff out of two separate places (actually three if counting the weekly cleaning stuff) and have everything together.

Maybe that's why the Amish CPAP furniture is so tall -- it includes storage for jugs of distilled water, cleaning supplies, and replacement parts. I'm guessing some users may have also adapted it as hose holder for sleep, or as a place to hang hoses while drying after weekly cleaning.
 
#15 · (Edited)
I think that the need for the humidifier is dependent on the climate of your bedroom. Currently with my bedroom humidity at 50%, the AS11 only uses about 90ml of it's 380ml capacity to get to its default 85% humidity. I can try getting my room humidity up to about 60% and turn off the AS11 humidifier to run without water. I'll do try that after my second week. I'm only a week into this CPAP adventure as of today.
The recomended air humidity is between 50 and 60% in a house. I am very skeptical about those 85%

If you room humidity is 50% IMO you don't need the humidifier.


My wife has abandoned the humidifier because it didn't made any difference to the dry mouth feeling.

Although the tube is cleaned (and it is difficult to do) the humidification is a potential source of contamination.

Furthermore, as the temperature in the room is kept low (16°C [in winter]) there was condensation in the tube. We tried to isolate the tube but without much success.

RESIMED AIRsense11 Elite
the screen turns black after a few minutes.

Putting the CPAP on the ground is OK if one do at least a vacuum cleaning of the zone every day. There is a small air filter at the back of the CPAP to catch dust.
My wife uses it every day the whole night.

AS you know the welfare system in my Country is very different than the US one.
My wife has to use the CPAP minimum 4 hours per night. She pays about 0.25 EURO per day.
 
#16 ·
My climate is very dry so the humidity helps keep my airways moistened.
I guess that's the part that stumps me... the air you are breathing in from the CPAP machine (without the humidifier enabled) is the same air that you would be breathing without it - so same amount of moisture either way. Did you have problems keeping your 'airways moistened' before getting the machine?

If you room humidity is 50% IMO you don't need the humidifier.

My wife has abandoned the humidifier because it didn't made any difference to the dry mouth feeling.
That has been my experience as well.

One thing that I really do like about the CPAP machine is that with the air intake being over near the nightstand, I can fart in bed and not smell it :eek:

Cheers,
Brad
 
#18 ·
I don't know what the big issue is... It's a CPAP, not the crown jewels that have to be hidden... I'm sure SWMBO is aware of what it looks like and I see no reason why you/anyone should be ashamed of visitors waltzing through, seeing it in a bedroom.
I have an old (lets tag it as a "bedside") cabinet that I bought about 40 years ago
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before I started to rough up my own pieces of timber and it has served me well for all my necessary bedside accoutrement and the CPAP for the past 13 years.
 

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#19 · (Edited)
That's nice when you have bedside nightstand/cabinet that is 24" wide and 24" deep. Try a 12" wide by 18" deep nightstand that has a single drawer, and no second level. Drawer is already full of stuff. The top is normally home to a cellphone wireless charger, a radio alarm clock, laptop, and glasses. Maybe the laptop needs to find another home. :)

I think that's another requirement I'll need for a CPAP nightstand: at least 24"x24" flat top area.
 
#20 ·
That's nice when you have bedside nightstand/cabinet that is 24" wide and 24" deep. Try a 12" wide by 18" deep nightstand that has a single drawer, and no second level. Drawer is already full of stuff. The top is normally home to a cellphone wireless charger, a radio alarm clock, laptop, and glasses. Maybe the laptop needs to find another home. :)
If you wear a CPAP because SWMBO doesn't like your snoring, it's an intimate choice, however, if you wear a CPAP because of medical reasons, I feel that the choice between a midnight phone call from some idiot that doesn't respect your sleep regime vs your health is a no-brainer... I seldom put on my glasses on to clearly watch myself sleep and if you need them close for that nightly loo visit, who cares, you're probably gonna miss the bowl anyway... oh yeah if you must have that umbilical phone withing earshot, surprise, surprise, I hear rumours they can work as an alarm clock... and a laptop in bed? get a life go to sleep!

Now if you want to make that special designed tabletop out of exotics so you can dream about it in your sleep... great choice.
 
#21 ·
CPAP was recommended by the anesthesiologist because she noticed I stopped breathing during each of my colonoscopies the past few years. My primary care physician concurred believing that it would likely also help with my hypertension. The sleep study revealed I had severe sleep apnea.

The phone is nearby because I'm on-call two weeks out of every three weeks. Somehow someone is always having a crisis that they can't access their files in SharePoint, Teams, or OneDrive in the middle of the night. Of course we've told them many times that if the files are critical SharePoint, Teams, or OneDrive is not the place for it. Nobody listens. Our IIS server farm for which we primarily setup the on-call phone runs business critical services that might impact whether some gets medical care or not. We might get a call about that farm having an issue maybe once every 4 months during the day, and maybe once a year at night. sigh If not for being on call, the phone would live on the console table.

I used to use the phone as my alarm clock, but my wife gifted me the smart radio alarm clock. She tolerated my snoring, but I think she was just too kind to say anything about the ringtone from my phone as an alarm.

The laptop is to keep me from doom scrolling on the phone and actually get some sleep. :)

The glasses nearby are in case someone needs a lead infusion when they break into the house.

But yes overall you are correct. Since the CPAP machine forces a lifestyle change, maybe it's time to evaluate other parts of the lifestyle as well. <sarcasm> I should quit this job that is raising my blood pressure, and was likely contributing to he stress that help precipitate my cancer, and is now forcing the use of the CPAP machine. </sarcasm>
 
#24 ·
Do you folks store your (distilled) water in jugs or jars in the same nightstand or keep your water elsewhere?

Do you store your CPAP cleaning supplies and tools in the nightstand?

Do you store your replacement parts (replacement hoses, reservoirs, filters, masks, etc.) in the nightstand?

Any SoClean users? Is that also on top your nightstand?
 
#25 ·
Don't use water, but when I did, I have a distiller with it's own reservoir.
Don't have any cleaning supplies... I wash out the mask maybe once every other week in the sink (or just replace it) and clean the filter at the same time.
Replacement parts are stored in a box in the closet. I've had to start declining some of them from being sent over the last year because they just keep sending me stuff I don't need and don't want to store.

Cheers,
Brad
 
#26 ·
Interesting thread! I’ve had my machine on my side table since I started using it. Trying to think of a way to keep it useful and get it off of there has been a real puzzle. I’ve toyed with the idea of a floating shelf above the nightstand or my side of the bed to keep the hose isolated. As to the water tank, we really need them here in the Rocky Mountain West—humidity is very low and without it you’re pretty miserable in the AM.
 
#27 ·
As to the water tank, we really need them here in the Rocky Mountain West—humidity is very low and without it you’re pretty miserable in the AM.
I'm still trying to figure this out... maybe someone can explain... the humidity in your home is the same as what the CPAP machine provides without the water since it's the same air... so why wasn't the low humidity an issue before getting a CPAP machine? I can see where it might be useful if you use a heated tube (I don't), but other than that... why?

Cheers,
Brad
 
#30 ·
The AirSense 11 supports two kinds of water tubs according to the manual. The stock one has a white tab and is supposed to be for personal used and should only be filled with the distilled water and should be replaced every 3 months. There is a "reusable" tub that has a gray tab that is acceptable for use in a medical environment, works with tap water and is supposed to be replaced every 6 months.
 
#31 ·
You all should know that there is an alternative to CPAP: The Mandibular Advancement Device otherwise known as MAD.

The CPAP industry got there first because obviously if you stop breathing, you need air blown into your lungs. Less obvious, is that if you position the jaw slightly differently while you sleep, sleep apnea can be largely eliminated for many with mild to moderate OSA.

Both my wife and I tested positive to sleep apnea, and we both were keeping each other awake a lot. But that is no a factor in our sleep life. I’d say miraculous, except it really is a slick technology that is fitted by a specially trained dentist.

It takes a few days of getting use to putting this device in your mouth before bedtime. But that’s about it. Let’s say a week to feel comfortable. If you ever had a retainer during orthodontistry, it feels about the same. Now, I use it even if I’m taking a short nap, because otherwise I wake up gasping.

Gets cleaned once a week by soaking in a solution used for cleaning retainers. Rinsed after use with water. That’s the maintenance routine.

Finally, it is recommended for those with severe sleep apnea, if they cannot tolerate the CPAP. Price ranges from $50 for something called a snore guard, to a custom fitted, 3D-printed adjustable device which is in the $2,500 which is what we have, and paid for by insurance
 
#34 ·
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You all should know that there is an alternative to CPAP: The Mandibular Advancement Device otherwise known as MAD.

The CPAP industry got there first because obviously if you stop breathing, you need air blown into your lungs. Less obvious, is that if you position the jaw slightly differently while you sleep, sleep apnea can be largely eliminated for many with mild to moderate OSA.

Both my wife and I tested positive to sleep apnea, and we both were keeping each other awake a lot. But that is no a factor in our sleep life. I’d say miraculous, except it really is a slick technology that is fitted by a specially trained dentist.

It takes a few days of getting use to putting this device in your mouth before bedtime. But that’s about it. Let’s say a week to feel comfortable. If you ever had a retainer during orthodontistry, it feels about the same. Now, I use it even if I’m taking a short nap, because otherwise I wake up gasping.

Gets cleaned once a week by soaking in a solution used for cleaning retainers. Rinsed after use with water. That’s the maintenance routine.

Finally, it is recommended for those with severe sleep apnea, if they cannot tolerate the CPAP. Price ranges from $50 for something called a snore guard, to a custom fitted, 3D-printed adjustable device which is in the $2,500 which is what we have, and paid for by insurance
I think that’s what my wife will end up getting the mouth piece.
 
#33 ·
given the same homdiddy clothes dry quicker on the line in a breeze

moving air takes the moisture with it on the way by ...

my night stand top is level w/ the bed so i can see the clock easier as well as reach the remote

my APAP machine is under the drawer and protrudes frum under the front of the night stand justa bit so i can easily turn it off no matter which side i'm sleeping on or when i'm on my back

the power strip and voltage regulator are on the floor under the stand

been playing this game for over 10 years now and those who poo-poo these devices stand a chance of waking up dead IMHO as well as the Humble Opine of my Pulmonologist and PCP

my O2 rate drops into the mid 70% range at night which "they say" is knot something i should strive to achieve

as for the water feature ... i don't use one and i keep my supplies in a box in the closet

as for automatic shipping of supplies ... i had a dis-cussing w/ the supplier and they now only ship w/ my approval

suppliers are getting filthy rich w/ the auto ship business and since most insurance companies keep paying for it they have to be told 2knot2

when the mask pillow begins to loose it's pliability it gets changed likewise for the elastic head gear and any of the fittings associated with the system

there is an app that links up to my Dream Station which tells me if i've got a leak

YES I KNOW ... TMI

leon
 
#37 ·
I have not posted pictures before now so hope this works. The wife and I both use Cpap machines so built two side units a few years ago, and they work great. The other side is reversed. Total height is approximately 38.75”, for perspective the rectangular top is 23” wide and 24” deep. The case below the rectangular top is 23” deep and 21” wide. Drawer boxes height, 9,9,and 6. Blum under mount slides. Materials walnut. The two tops are 5/4 Nominal. Side panels 3/4 with the two sides solid wood and the back veneered MDF. I believe my drawings are at my cabin.
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#43 ·
Well thanks for starting a new thread on this subject. I have been using one since 2006. My wife just started using one a few years ago after being diagnosed. We are both US Military veterans, I retired from the USAF reserves with 30 years as a SMSgt. The VA covers our machines so cost is not an issue. I have had several machines over the years and some were large, others smaller. I have one I use for travel that is auto on, off. My new one is the AirSense 11 which is only Auto on. I have it on a night stand (repurposed TV stand), my wife has hers on her computer desk. We both need one to hold our stuff better. So I look forward to other solutions out there.
 
#44 ·
Thank you for your service!

You can also flip on the SmartStop feature of the AirSense 11 to make it auto stop.

I'm slowly leaning towards something like this (but with drawers instead of cabinet doors):

But to fit our current bedroom furniture, something like this maybe what I'll end up with: