Send a message to DaveR. He can advise you and show you the limits- or lack of- for sketchup.

 

I'd rather design my own but you don't sound like you are interested in that. so…I don't think you'd like SU.

 

yeah, I am thinking about trying sketchup just to see how hard it would be to work with. Free is better then 100. But yes, I am not as much into designing my own, I like simple does it. I actually think cabinet planner might be comparable t o software worth 2000 or more. Course I could be wrong on that opinion.

By the way, for those reading this, I look at projects page on a regular basis, and you woodworkers here are nothing short of amazing with the projects you all complete. All great jobs. We build kitchens and do a great job but the custom furnishings I see on here appear to be packed full of artistic flavors combined with great building skills.

 

Have you also checked out ecabinets its free also

 

I have a copy of ecabinets. The only complaint that I have is the learning curve is big. I need to spend more time trying to understand it but it is very difficult. But it is free.

 

Sketch up is a great tool, but I'll be honest, I hate it. I've sat for an hour an a half trying to figure out how to create the shape I want, then just said to heck with it, and drew it by hand using an architects scale. There is a lot of info available for Sketch Up available online, if you're willing to watch a bunch of YouTube videos, but when I first read about it, I got the impression that it was an intuitive program, which I don't think it is at all. Now what I use the most for designing is a graphic design program, Adobe Illustrator.

 

Yeah, I agree and think I will likely 'pony up'. The cost for cabinet planner is tiny in the big picture and since I know it and like it, then great! The one thing I don't like though is you must have a wall in order to place a cabinet. This means I cannot draw an island into a kitchen, so I just place a fake wall in the drawing and put the island on that, though then it does not look to be an island which just means I have to explain to the customer. Otherwise, it is very user friendly and even will give me a material list. I have been doing my own designing and material list for so long though, I mainly just use the material list it provides as an estimation. Before cabinet planner I used graph paper and excel documents for calculations. I still use excel to organize door and drawer parts and calculate my material.

Oh, and by the way, I am going to go look at a North State 20" planer ($750) tonight, I likely will buy it and hope this turns into a gloat. Not sure what the North State retails at but a comparable Grizzly would be around $1500. I am hoping he will take an offer of $600. It is 5hp, 25 amp and around 900 lbs so I am sure it is built strong. With the sale of my DW735 the upgrade should only amount to about 400.00 out of pocket. Just to good to pass on.

Thanks everyone,

Jerry

 

I bet even Christopher Walken would find sketchup predictable.

 

I am somewhat computer literate and, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to do anything in Sketchup.

In Cabinet Planner, however, it is so intuitive, that I was able to render a basic kitchen on my first sitting (approx 2 hrs) with the program.

Let's look at the economics:

Sketchup - free - infinite learning curve.
Cabinet planner - $70 (or, the cost of 2 sheets of plywood), productive immediately

I don't know what your time is worth, but anything times infinite is a big number. I figure i paid for the program just in saving 2 sheets of plywood with the cutting diagrams.

...just my opinion…

 

to be honest in my cab shop I a 2-d guy i draw on A+ cad and give the customer an over head view as part as my free estimate pack I do draw in sketchup if they sign the contract for us to build or pay upfront for the 3-d rendering I like sketch up i prefer to build by a 2-d and cut sheet but sketchup is worth a shot check out medailon cabinetry they have uploaded tons of shaker and modern cabinet models that i bring and alter

 

I bought the cabinet planner a while back. I like it… Its a simple ,to the point program. The only thing I want is the sheet layout for the job.
I've tried sketchup and I don't get the big hype. I actually prefer a chalk board and an eraser.

flyforfun…If I remember right and hoping I don't have this confused with ecabinets, I think you have have to pick a wall for your island to be referenced from. when you place your island against the wall there's a section where you enter the amount of distance from the wall you want your cabinet and that should throw your island out in the middle of the room.

 

Scott, I am happy to help. I still use cabinet planner. Actually, the way you described it would not be accurate as to how I complete the island/peninsula cabinets in the program.

Go into the set walls category, and set your wall up for the island. If the island is 48" long then set that wall at 48" long, then set the hieght of the wall to "0" and the depth of the wall to "0" and all of a sudden you have a place to put your island. This is much easier. You can also place finished panels on your visible ends of cabinets by using this "0" method, I do it all of the time.

 

Sketchup: Architects like it and many use it. If you work with architects,
it can be a good thing to know the software.

I've used ecabinets. I like it but it takes a lot of learning and setup. You can
build a very customized system to bid jobs in it though.

 

The problem with trial software is, even after your 20 logins, if you delete it and re-install it, the registry already knows that you used your 20 logins.
What you have to do is delete the registry count as well.
Here is what you can do:
Install the new trial software - use your 20 tries - uninstall it - clean the registry with the free version of Ccleaner available here - reinstall your trial software and get another 20 uses - keep doing this forever.

I can't guarantee that it will work on your drawing program as I've never used that one.
This works on a PC - don't know if there is a Mac version available.

 

hey Paul…What about the guy that created the software… Is it fair?

Thanks flyforfun, I'll try that next time.

Loren… I really liked ecabinets. The only thing I didn't like, was I needed excel to transfer my measurements to cutlist. If they had a sheet optimizer program included with there software, I would have stayed using the ecabinet program.

 

I use cabinet planner and dont want to switch. I also have ecabinet. Eacabinet is great for custom cabinets. We had to make a odd size lazy susan cabinet and ecabinet allows you to do this. Cabinet planner is used for all basic cabinet jobs. Nice,simple and quick.

 

Cabinet Planner all the way. If there is something on there that you can't figure out how to do, just e-mail Rob and you will normally get a response within the hour. Weekends included.

NOTE TO FLYFORFUN, to create an island, yes you need a wall but you can set the wall depth and height at 0 and everything will work great

Ed

 

Hey Paul, that is a pretty cheesey way to operate, and cheesier still when you educate others to free load.

Just my opinion but it sounds right to me.

Ed

 

EDP
I agree
Let's pay for someones software if you're going to use it.

 

Making software takes no less effort than making cabinets and IMO sitting in front of a computer is more likely to kill ya in the long run. Just sayin…