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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
JessEm - Doweling Jig 8350 (Rating: 5)

I have been doing a lot of pocket hole joinery because I usually build shop furniture, jigs, etc. However, I wanted to make some things that did not have visible screw holes. I have a biscuit joiner but do not feel that would get the job done. That leaves dowels or m&t joints. I realize that most authorities say that m&t will provide the strongest joint with dowels a close second. However, for my uses, If the joint fails because over 500lbs of pressure was placed on it, my concern will most likely be for who was hurt : )

Lets face it, all dowel jigs are nothing more than several evenly spaced guide bushings. The difference is the ability of the jig to place accurate holes in different configurations. The inexpensive self centering dowel jigs cannot do this. I searched and reviewed all the different jigs on the market. I found the three highest rated ones are the Dowelmax, Joint Genie, and Jessem Paralign jig. The Dowelmax is ridiculously priced (it is over $400 for a complete system with different size bushings). That is more that most of my powertools with motors and other complicated electronics. I can only imagine how much markup the makers of Dowelmax make on each unit. That being said, obviously they did something right as people do really like the Dowelmax and continue to buy it. But not this guy. The joint Genie looked good but seemed a little more complicated with so many parts which leaves more room for error.

When I was looking at the Jessem Paralign, I saw their new Dowel Jig: The 8350:

http://www.jessemdirect.com/JessEm_Dowelling_Jig_p/08350.htm

What really stood out to me was that it is the only dowel jig that is adjusted without having to remove the jig and add a spacer or change the setting. Brilliant! The 1/8" indexing system locks in exact every time. It also has an alignment slot to match the dowel on an opposing board of different lengths. Simple, and also brilliant! No other dowel jig has these features. You do have to use your own clamp to clamp it to the board, but it is probably for the best as you do not have to keep reassembling the jig each time you want to place it on another board. Even with the Dowelmax you have to use an external clamp when clamping to a second board when beyond the spacers reach.

As with all Jessem tools, it is rock solid and quality made using CNC anodized aluminum with laser engraved markings. HERE IS THE BEST PART: $99 FOR THE 3/8"SYSTEM (for $159 you can get the master system which has 1/4" and 1/2" bushing guides). I am not sure why Jessem sells this one and the more expensive Paralign, but my thought is that they realized they can manufacture a more diverse, and lighter jig for less money. I guess it will only be a matter of time before they discontinue the Paralign because the 8350 does everything the Paralign does. I have a Jessem router lift and it is a wonderful product. All their tools are made in Canada.

I received the jig 1 week after ordering it and was very nicely packaged. My only gripe is that the instructions and videos could be a little more detailed. In the video and instructions, they scribe a line in the wood and center the jig at its centerline. The only problem I found with this is that if joining to the face of the 2nd piece, you cannot see the centerline mark on the wood. JessEm should have laser engraved a centerline along the front as well. This is not a big deal beacuse usually I will not use the centerline but will just line up the jig at the edge of the wood and go from there. I will just mark the sides to be drilled. This is how the Dowelmax is used. The jig comes with an indexing pin so I can drill as many accurate holes as I want.

The test joints I have made are perfectly flush. I even did a test piece using three rows of dowels like the video. They fit perfect.

I hope this helps those looking for a reasonable priced quality dowel jig.

BTW, I made the storage box.
 

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#3 · (Edited by Moderator)
Hey Greg, Whaz up? What are you making these days? To answer your question: space and price. The 8350 is compact, inexpensive, and will get the job done. I have never used the Domino but no doubt it is a fantastic tool like the rest of the Festool line. At this point, I don't know how often I will use dowels. I use a lot of pocket screws. If I find I am making more real furniture, I may eventually invest in a Domino.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
Boy Todd, you sure make me feel good about the order I placed last week for this same jig. Normally I watch Dr. Phil to make me feel good about myself knowing that there are a lot more screwed up people than me out there. I keep looking out the window to see if the UPS truck is coming in hopes I can use it today. I'm not sure I will sleep tonight if it doesn't come today. Thanks for the good review. By the way did you get the master system with the other two sizes. I did as I have plans to build some pretty beefy headboards. Curious if you did and how they worked.
 
#6 · (Edited by Moderator)
Bullhead, you are going to really like it.You are especially going to like the extra $250 in your pocket that you saved over the Dowelmax. I did not purchase the master system. They do sell the 1/4" and the 1/2" inch guide bushings, index pin, and drill bit for $39 each if I decide I want them later. One little caveat, hold the jig when you release the clamp so it doesn't fall. I bought a Jawhorse on sale at Lowes (I have been wanting one of those for a while) Now I just clamp the the wood and jig with one Jawhorse clamp.
 
#7 · (Edited by Moderator)
I bought the paralign system about a year ago before yours was available. I like it a lot. My only complaint it it doesn't have a 1/2" dowell option. I'd write a review but my observations would be the same as yours.

I'd like to have a domino too but don't want to spend the money and it basically duplicates other equipment that I already have.
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
I have one, too. Pre-ordered it and got one from the first batch. I love it. The ability to use the jig to reference off another dowel is genius. I was trying to join two pieces of plywood to make a longer one (had no wood stretcher at the time). I did not even need to measure anything. I chose one piece, referenced of the left edge, drilled a hole, referenced off the right edge, drilled a hole…then drill three more between them with measuring. I put 5 dowels in the five holes. clamped the two sides together and drilled the matching five holes. Perfect alignment without a single measurement.
 
#14 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks for the review. I've been looking at some sort of system like this for about a year. Could never decide on anything.

I have a Kreg jig and love it, but wanted something that didn't show the joint. Most of what I make doesn't require M&T joinery (yet) and this Jessem jig looks to be perfect, and priced right. Going to order it.

Great review.
 
#15 · (Edited by Moderator)
Arrrrgh! I've been thinking about getting a dowel jig for a while and this Jessem looks pretty attractive. Actually got as far as placing it in my cart at the jessem website a couple days ago but didn't pull the trigger. Today I see that Jessem has raised theIr prices. The Model #08350 Dowelling Jig went from $99 to $129 and the "Master Kit" from $159 up to $199. Guess I'll continue looking at whether I really need it or not….
 
#16 · (Edited by Moderator)
Mine came yesterday and have spent the day practicing and testing before I do my first project. I can attest for the others that speak highly of this product. It is well built and I think still a value at the higher price. After getting it and doing some tests I'm glad I got the Master Kit with the three sizes as I can see applications for all three. It sure is nice to get a well made product from northern neighbors! Being new to doweling I wonder if there is any guidlines as to size and or pattern to use depending on the application?
 
#17 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks for the review Tras, I debated for two days last week which model to try out first, decided on the Paralign 8300 version over the newer version, they knocked the price down $20 over the new version and that was enough to seal the deal. Thing is if I'm not pleased with it they'll let me switch models.

The dowel alignment method of the 8350 seems unique, novel, but sure it works fine. I did like the quick change method while clamped to a board vs the 8300, but also don't mind making that adjustment. While I didn't particularly care for the "use your own clamp" method for obvious reasons, clamp your medium, hold your jig and hold a clamp vs clamp the jig, with the new type of self adjusting clamps hitting market, it's no big deal. I do like the beast design of the 8300, heavy and I like that.

I've been using and feel I've mastered the Kreg Jig system of pocket hole joinery, just like you Tras, tired of filling pocket holes, sanding, blah blah blah. My real interest was mortise & tenon joinery for the things I build, primarily furniture with a dedicated niche for fine heavy duty rockers. I feel the best pre-made m/t router jig on market is the Leigh FMT Pro, but I personally can't quantify the $1k cost for a hobby. Was going to build my own router m/t jig from some plans I bought for $10, but came across the Dowelmax doing random strongest joinery searches on Google. Found the designers YouTube video which was hilarious, it was identical to the QVC commercials with the "are you tired of fumbling around with xyz"...this guy was fumbling with tools like the Festool domino, etc, but he finally got around to the true testing of strength of dowels.
Sure many would debate dowels being 30% stronger than m/t joints, sure Noah would disagree with dowels, but I was impressed nonetheless. The Dowelmax is nice, but after speaking with the designer last week I decided against the Dowelmax vs the Jessem Paralign.

Should get my Paralign in late next week, have a custom designed storage-bench all cut and ready to join on the bench. Tempting to Kreg it, but holding out to try this Jessem.
 
#18 · (Edited by Moderator)
BRAVOGOLFTANGO,
Good score on the Paralign if you got for only $20 more than the 8350. That is a a lot of anodized alluminum for the price. One of the criticisms I found about the Paralign was it is very heavy. Some people like it, others do not It would not be a deterent for me. Both the Paralign and the 8350 will get the job done. My opinion is that the 8350 will just get it done a little faster. It also has guides for 1/2" dowels in addition to 1/4" and 3/8". The Paralign only has 1/4" and 3/8" bushings. Anyway, I do not think you can go wrong with either device. I have used my 8350 on a few project and so far have been very happy.
 
#19 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thanks Tras, yeah I was a bit anxious about the 1/2" dowels at first but the primary size is 3/8", very little of the 1/4 and especially the 1/2" get used per the CSR I spoke with. I work primarily with 3/4" thick to 1-1/2" mediums and the 3/8" dowels are perfect for that.

That said, I'd reconsider if it were the case that (for example) joining two 2Ă—6s together using a mere two 1/2" dowels, or even three would be as strong as six 3/8" dowels. Now without statistics it'd just be a bunch of opinions as to which was stronger. I just don't know what 1/2" would really do for me vs 3/8.

As for the 8350 getting it done easier, I can see how on certain things but not the case for others, honestly depends on the project at hand as admitted by their designer last week on the phone. Both have their advantages/disadvantages over each other. Both are awesome from everything I've read and the newer version is tempting for me primarily because of the ability to adjust after it's hand-clamped (8350), almost bought that one just for that particular reason, but decided on the 8300 for reasons already foretold.
 
#21 · (Edited by Moderator)
Haha, almost bought a self-centering harbor freight china jig for dirt cheap, would have had it had all four guides as 3/8", have no need for 5 different sizes.

I don't see an issue with either of the jessems not self-centering though, it's a different way of working and with the new one the idea for larger medium (2Ă—6, 2Ă—4s, etc) you wouldn't want a single row from a strength perspective, so self-centering would be lacking. Albeit, self-centering for 3/4" or smaller might be fine.
 
#25 · (Edited by Moderator)
Terrific review Todd… I too have fallen deeply in love with the jig. :)

Minor gripe was the standard drill stops (hard to adjust, can easily damage the bits) but that was easily fixed with "Split Depth Collars" from Lee Valley. Thinking of making a jig to easily set up the stops, a la Kreg K5.

My gf (mostly) came up with a different design for the box, but wow your dovetails look great… that's just out of my league! Your lid looks great too.
 
#26 · (Edited by Moderator)
I saw your review on the JessEm 8350 doweling tool the other day with a great deal of interest, and I wondered if you were aware of the "Dowel Wizard". This is a very unique tool that is also for positing and drilling holes for dowel pins just recently brought on the market. I believe the Dowel Wizard has addressed most of the problems that are experienced with many of the doweling jigs on the market today.

Check out my website www.dowelwizard.com and let me know what you think. If you would like a sample for your own evaluation, please let me know and I'll send you one.

I look forward to hearing from you,
Best regards

Gordon