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#501 ·
When I think of a hundred mile iceberg saint Brendan s tales don t sound so far fetched.

- RobS888

Nothing seems far fetch anymore. I think Bigfoot is an alien beast checking on us. Aliens drop them off in that form so we can t capture them. If they were here full time we would have found more evidence than just a few tracks, hairs and blood containing unidentified primate DNA. I m sure the space invaders are our offspring that escaped the inhospitable planet in the future. They finally totally mastered Einstein s theories including time travel. They return frequently to observe and document how we screwed up earth in order to avoid making the same mistakes again. They may be nearly out of hospitable planets to run to? ;-(( They stopped by here one night about 20 years ago. I was headed out to look at their ship. I had an aggressive dog to keep thieves out of my tools in my work van. When they made that dog yelp, stop barking and go lay down, I chickened out and didn t go see their ship. Now, run with that one Steven Spielberg ;-))

- TopamaxSurvivor
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Wow, you missed you calling in life. You should have been a fictional book writer. You could have made a millions.
 
#502 ·
most of the people who believe in global warming believe in evolution so why do you not think the earth will not make changes . if global warming is man made the world would have been gone at the height of the industrial age at the turn of the last century . i am one of the inbreeds who think global warming is bull******************** and a money grab thank you very much
 
#505 ·
Cebfish is wrong on all counts. As he says inbreeding is the cause. Try thinking with an open mind. What if he is wrong and nothing gets done What will be left for the Grandchildren? I am not willing to take that chance. If I am wrong so what. We will still have a cleaner world.

Madts.
 
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#506 · (Edited by Moderator)
Cebfish is wrong on all counts. As he says inbreeding is the cause. Try thinking with an open mind. What if he is wrong and nothing gets done What will be left for the Grandchildren? I am not willing to take that chance. If I am wrong so what. We will still have a cleaner world.

Madts.

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Sometimes we can't help ourselves and in an attempt to do something without knowing enough we, as humans, do the exact wrong thing.
 
#507 ·
most of the people who believe in global warming believe in evolution so why do you not think the earth will not make changes . if global warming is man made the world would have been gone at the height of the industrial age at the turn of the last century . i am one of the inbreeds who think global warming is bull******************** and a money grab thank you very much

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Hard to deny half the Arctic ice cap was gone by the end of the cold war. Fact declassified by Navy submarine division. There is no doubt the earth will continue to evolve and change. There have been at least 2 or 3 mass extinction events over the last few billion years. Most likely, it is too late for man to do anything about the one that appears to be looming in the future. Earth will certainly pass critical mass if it has not already passed it before we could avert it if we even have the ability or could muster the will .

Lack of ability to analyze and of critical thinking is not necessarily the product of inbreeding. Fully a third of the population suffers those deficiencies. Some psychologists considered it a personality defect, but a third of the population certainly deserves to be considered a trait, not a defect. Prof Bob Altemeyer at the U of Manitoba did much research on the population that predominately exhibits this trait during his career.
 
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#509 ·
For more reading on why talking about these issues is a waste:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140731145935.htm

I always thought some responses were just too fast to be considered.

- RobS888
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That article is consistent with the findings of Prof Bob Altemeyer at the U of Manitoba. His research was an extension of the research started after WWII to determine if the US could come under the influence of a leader like Hitler.
 
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#510 · (Edited by Moderator)
For more reading on why talking about these issues is a waste:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140731145935.htm

I always thought some responses were just too fast to be considered.

- RobS888
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Wow… the tripe that passes as SCIENCE….
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Using eye-tracking equipment and skin conductance detectors, the three researchers have observed that conservatives tend to have more intense reactions to negative stimuli, such as photos of people eating worms, burning houses or maggot-infested wounds.
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So Conservatives were apparently more likely to be disgusted/repulsed by nasty things… while libs I suppose look at people eating worms and think Good Protein Source? lets have another sip of wine.

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Combining their own results with similar findings from other researchers around the world, the team proposes that this so-called "negativity bias" may be a common factor that helps define the difference between conservatives, with their emphasis on stability and order, and liberals, with their emphasis on progress and innovation.

"Across research methods, samples and countries, conservatives have been found to be quicker to focus on the negative, to spend longer looking at the negative, and to be more distracted by the negative," the researchers wrote.

The researchers caution that they make no value judgments about this finding. In fact, some studies show that conservatives, despite their quickness to detect threats, are happier overall than liberals.
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So Not unsurprising, that liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others, and conservatives actually detect threats faster and live happier lives…

I'm ok with that analysis.
 
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#511 · (Edited by Moderator)
Wow… the tripe that passes as SCIENCE….

So Not unsurprising, that liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others, and conservatives actually detect threats faster and live happier lives…

I'm ok with that analysis.
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Actually, I was just adding the article to show that to me some reactions seem too quick to be reasoned responces. You can defend and abuse the science in the same post if you are ok with that type of thing. Looks silly to me.

Could you show where you got: 'liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others' I didn't see that.
 
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#512 ·
Actually, I was just adding the article to show that to me some reactions seem too quick to be reasoned responces. You can defend and abuse the science in the same post if you are ok with that type of thing. Looks silly to me.

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That is one of the conclusions Altemeyer proved in his many years of research. Critical thinking and association of actions with their consequences are absent in the right wing authoritarian thought processes. There were studies to see if a lower IQ contributed to this thought process. There was no correlation; however, at age 10, a significant lower IQ was an indicator of the personality type. It is quite interesting that would be present in adolescence but not later in adulthood.
 
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#513 ·
There were studies to see if a lower IQ contributed to this thought process. There was no correlation; however, at age 10, a significant lower IQ was an indicator of the personality type. It is quite interesting that would be present in adolescence but not later in adulthood.

- TopamaxSurvivor
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I suspect it is because the IQ testing results in adolescent thought processes are strongly influenced by upbringing. and social circumstance

Regardless a "genius" will be spotted as a genius.. but those that have not had pre-K education, are going to be at a lower reading level, and have poorer problem solving skills.

As adults that "missing head start" fades as an intelligence measure
 
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#514 · (Edited by Moderator)
There were studies to see if a lower IQ contributed to this thought process. There was no correlation; however, at age 10, a significant lower IQ was an indicator of the personality type. It is quite interesting that would be present in adolescence but not later in adulthood.

- TopamaxSurvivor

I suspect it is because the IQ testing results in adolescent thought processes are strongly influenced by upbringing. and social circumstance

Regardless a "genius" will be spotted as a genius.. but those that have not had pre-K education, are going to be at a lower reading level, and have poorer problem solving skills.

As adults that "missing head start" fades as an intelligence measure

- DrDirt
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Here Rob

In 2006 a Pew study of public opinion in the US found that 47% of Republicans reported themselves to be "very happy" compared to just 28% of liberal democrats. Republicans have reported themselves to be happier than Democrats every single year since the general social survey began in 1972 and the relationship does not seem to be mediated by whether Democrats or Republicans are in power:
http://bigthink.com/neurobonkers/the-paradox-of-unhappy-liberals-and-happy-conservatives-in-happy-welfare-states

So Republicans have been happier for a decade before Reagan…. even through the Carter years :)
 
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#515 ·
Here Rob

In 2006 a Pew study of public opinion in the US found that 47% of Republicans reported themselves to be "very happy" compared to just 28% of liberal democrats. Republicans have reported themselves to be happier than Democrats every single year since the general social survey began in 1972 and the relationship does not seem to be mediated by whether Democrats or Republicans are in power:
http://bigthink.com/neurobonkers/the-paradox-of-unhappy-liberals-and-happy-conservatives-in-happy-welfare-states

So Republicans have been happier for a decade before Reagan…. even through the Carter years :)

- DrDirt
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Self reported happiness surveys are laughable compared to actual studies. Where is this:

'liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others' I didn't see that.

You showed that Conservatives say they are happier, but where in my link or in your studies does it show:

'liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others' This is just your opinion. I will take a study over your fear based opinion any day.

Please stick with proving these points about liberals.
 
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#516 ·
Where is this:

'liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others' I didn't see that.

You showed that Conservatives say they are happier, but where in my link or in your studies does it show:

liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others' This is just your opinion. I will take a study over your fear based opinion any day.

Please stick with proving these points about liberals.

- RobS888
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http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/5-reasons-liberals-are-such-unpleasant-people-to-be-around/
Why are liberals so unpleasant to be around?

1) They're unhappy: Study after study shows that conservatives are happier people than liberals. The difference can be staggering.

In 2004, people who said they were conservative or very conservative were nearly twice as likely to say they were very happy as people who called themselves liberal or very liberal (44 percent versus 25 percent). Conservatives were only half as likely to say they were not too happy (9 versus 18 percent).

Unhappy people are generally disagreeable because when you're miserable, you tend to become very selfish. If you want an example of how that works, go hit yourself on the hand with a hammer and while you're writhing in agony, see how much time you spend thinking about helping other people as opposed to wishing you hadn't smashed your own hand.

2) Liberals don't care as much about tradition: Although it goes without saying that people who worship change for change's sake don't care very much about customs, you might wonder why that would make such a big difference. Well, as Thomas Sowell has noted, "Civilization has been aptly called a 'thin crust over a volcano.' The anointed are constantly picking at that crust."

In many cases, societal conventions represent the accumulated wisdom of previous generations. Through trial and error, they discovered that there are certain things you can do that help keep a society running well. There are reasons why people get together and sing Christmas carols in the town square, refuse to insult people immediately after they die, treat marriage as sacred, and don't turn funerals into campaign rallies. Because liberals tend to think they're smarter than all those old dead people simply by virtue of being liberal, they tend to ignore those conventions and create disorder and havoc around themselves in the process.

3) Liberals see people who disagree as evil: Liberals see themselves as part of a Manichean struggle in which they're trying to create Utopia on earth while they're being opposed by people who want to do evil for evil's sake. In other words, liberals are about as complex as your average comic book from the fifties. As Charles Krauthammer has said,

To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.

When you attribute disagreements with Barack Obama to racism, opposition to gay marriage to homophobia, standing against abortion as hatred of women, and a desire to balance the budget to loathing of the poor, you have a hopelessly simplistic view of the world that makes you utterly impervious to reason. Stupid, you may be able to educate, but evil, you have to defeat - and liberals are seldom picky about the means or the manners they use while trying to do so.

4) Liberals aren't very religious: Liberals are overwhelmingly either atheists or agnostics, people who don't take their religious beliefs very seriously in the first place, or people who allow their ideology to completely subvert their religious beliefs. This is no small matter because religion is one of the great civilizing forces. That's not to say that even sincere practitioners of a religion always do the right thing because as Rick Warren has noted, "The church is a hospital for sinners, not a hotel for saints." However, if you take human beings with open minds, put them in a pew and expose them to "Love thy neighbour as thyself" and "Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" long enough, it will curb their nature and make them into much better people than they otherwise would have been.

5) Liberalism encourages arrogance: Liberals tend to believe they're brilliant, compassionate, moral, enlightened, perceptive, and courageous, not because of anything they've actually done, but just because they're liberal. When you completely divorce a person's self image from his behavior, it produces terrible results - like liberals who hurl abuse at conservative women while believing that they're feminists or selfish left-wingers who've never given a dime to charity, but believe themselves to be much more compassionate than people who tithe 10% of their income.

Now, on some level, liberals know this is all a big sham. But, even that can be problematic because unstable high self-esteem actually causes more bad behavior and violent behavior than low self-esteem. As Roy Baumeister noted in Evil: Inside Human Violence and Cruelty,
 
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#517 ·
There were studies to see if a lower IQ contributed to this thought process. There was no correlation; however, at age 10, a significant lower IQ was an indicator of the personality type. It is quite interesting that would be present in adolescence but not later in adulthood.

- TopamaxSurvivor

I suspect it is because the IQ testing results in adolescent thought processes are strongly influenced by upbringing. and social circumstance

Regardless a "genius" will be spotted as a genius.. but those that have not had pre-K education, are going to be at a lower reading level, and have poorer problem solving skills.

As adults that "missing head start" fades as an intelligence measure

- DrDirt
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So the kids at the lower end climb out of the bottom? Did the study follow the kids into adulthood to see if they did improve? Strange that so many of them became conservatives.
 
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#518 · (Edited by Moderator)
http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/5-reasons-liberals-are-such-unpleasant-people-to-be-around/
Why are liberals so unpleasant to be around?

1) Opinion…

2) Opinion…

3) Opinion…

4) Opinion…

5) Opinion…

Now, on some level, liberals know this is all a big sham. But, even that can be problematic because unstable high self-esteem actually causes more bad behavior and violent behavior than low self-esteem. As Roy Baumeister noted in Evil: Inside Human Violence and Cruelty,

- DrDirt
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Again self reported and opinion, and happier means just that. it doesn't mean liberals are unhappy, that is a simplistic interpretation.

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Where is the study proving this:

'liberals are bitter unhappy people, that are perpetually aggreived, and play the victim and wish to impose mandates on others'
 
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There were studies to see if a lower IQ contributed to this thought process. There was no correlation; however, at age 10, a significant lower IQ was an indicator of the personality type. It is quite interesting that would be present in adolescence but not later in adulthood.

- TopamaxSurvivor

I suspect it is because the IQ testing results in adolescent thought processes are strongly influenced by upbringing. and social circumstance

Regardless a "genius" will be spotted as a genius.. but those that have not had pre-K education, are going to be at a lower reading level, and have poorer problem solving skills.

As adults that "missing head start" fades as an intelligence measure

- DrDirt
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Autistic tendencies in high IQ children can make testing them quite difficult. If environmental factors were a cause, the indicator should not be consistent. Altemeyer's research demonstrated the lack of critical thinking and association of actions with their consequences in the right wing authoritarian thought processes to be genetic. Not all right wing authoritarians are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are right wing authoritarians.. Sociopathy is often confused with right wing authoritarian personality and results from environmental exposures, but it is not limited to the right. It occurs in left wing authoritarians also.
 
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