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04-08-2009 03:39 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tip tablesaw safety

I’m coining a new word here boys and girls. LERT = someone that is not alert. And I are one too !

We all know when “IT” happens, we’re usually doing something repetitive and get hypnotized by the moment. I was cutting pieces for a tiled bowl. They’re always cut at 22.5 degrees and these were 40 in number at 5 1/8” in length. To be honest, I’m not exactly sure how “IT” happened, but the piece passed the table saw blade and went flying in two pieces. I usually grab the pieces after they pass the blade then pull the meter gauge back to the starting position. I think I may have tried to do both at the same time. The result was all hell done broke lose.

The aftermath was a bent blade, a meter gauge that had to be completely re-calibrated, a piece of a project in two pieces, and a wife that came running in shock to see if I was alright. The noise of the action and me yelling Robbi’s favorite word brought Sue very quickly. And yes, I still have all my fingers.

So, be ALERT out there … not a “LERT” like me.

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". (my funny blog)

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#1 posted 04-08-2009 03:46 PM

Holy IT!

Still having all 10 fingers makes you a lucky other trucker in my book!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 04-08-2009 03:48 PM

I knew I could count on you Charlie !

-- Odie, Confucius say, "He who laughs at one's self is BUTT of joke". (my funny blog)

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#3 posted 04-08-2009 03:59 PM

OH LORD ODIE! Please tell me you didn’t scream Yadahooty!!!!!!!!!

Wash your mouth with soap!

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#4 posted 04-08-2009 03:59 PM

Have you recovered your witts yet. That kind of ordeal can get your blood pumping can’t it.

Good to hear that you can still count to ten with your fingers.

-- Hope Never fails

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#5 posted 04-08-2009 04:04 PM

A good reminder for the rest of us.

A recent client of mine is anesthesiologist and hobby woodworker. He asks people about their tool injuries in an attempt to avoid making the same mistakes, and he said that almost invariably the accidents happen when people are doing repetitive tasks or operations they have done many times before and feel very comfortable with.

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#6 posted 04-08-2009 04:07 PM

Thanks God you still have all your fingers.
I experienced once while I was ripping thin strip. The blade sent both the stock and the push stick flying.
Now I use simple sled equiped with a hold-down clamp for cutting small (short) piece. I know it is slow but at least it reduces my nervousness!

-- masrol, kuala lumpur, MY.

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#7 posted 04-08-2009 04:11 PM

All it takes is a split second of lertness and all he double hockey sticks broke loose and fingers are missing!!

I’m glad as $#!+ you didn’t get hurt!!

-- Kirk H. --

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#8 posted 04-08-2009 04:12 PM

Thanks odie. I love my TS but still scares that dickens out of me, too many pictures of others red stained TS’s. Glad you have all your fingers but reading many of your posts I am in doubt about the counting part ; )

-- Never board, always knotty, lots of growth rings

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#9 posted 04-08-2009 04:41 PM

Yeah, imagine if you had done that with a more powerful saw. I think crosscuting or mitering something that short on a tablesaw is just asking for trouble, Judgeing by the first picture I would never put my hand that close to the blade, and I think the miter gauge should be 22.5 degrees the other direction. Buy yourself a good miter saw. I’ve never really understood why people spend alot of money on a miter gauge for a table saw, how many professional trim carpenters do you know that use a table saw for miters ? None that I know of.

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#10 posted 04-08-2009 05:01 PM

Manure! that was a close call. where is that splitter/riving knife at?!?

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#11 posted 04-08-2009 05:45 PM

woodchuck – we are not all trim-carpenter, and no- we dont all have ~$600 for a good mitersaw that will crosscut 12” wide boards – but with a crosscut sled, or a good miter gauge – that is something that is very easy to do on the table saw.

I find the table saw a very versatile machine when setup properly with accessories – something that a mitersaw just isn’t and will never be.

I do agree with you however that this cut seems to be unsafe and somewhat dangerous- I’d opt to do the same cut differently, having my hands further from the blade, with a splitter of some sort at least – best way to do it , esp. if you have the same angle cut over and over again – would be with a sled, setup for repetitive cuts at a specific angle. safest way to go.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#12 posted 04-08-2009 06:17 PM

Thanks for another heads up Odie…....... I have already been guilty of being a “lert” and fortunately, like you, I still have all my fingers. I do all of these kind of cuts with a sled now. Glad you are o.k…..............

-- Gene, Majestic Eagle Woodworks,,

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#13 posted 04-08-2009 06:42 PM

Glad to hear you are alright! Kind of makes you rear end tight, doesn’t it. The best one I did is when I was cutting 1/8” wide strips from a 4” wide board with a 45 degree cut on the end. I was using a home made push block and did not realize that the part hanging over the back of the board between the blade and fence was missing. The strip came flying out of there and stuck 2” into my leg.

-- Mc Bridge Cabinets, Iowa

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#14 posted 04-08-2009 07:01 PM

OH…(well known commodity) Glad you’re ok Odie. You need to keep those fingers for your satire. Maybe you could blame it on the unknown dude distracting you. Stay dusty – and safe

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#15 posted 04-08-2009 07:13 PM

Purp, comeon now. For one, the board he cut isn’t anywhere near 12” wide, plus what he spent on the miter gauge setup he has would of put a good dent in the price of a new miter saw and would be safer. I’m not saying anyone has to spend $600 on a miter saw, my DeWalt 10” and 12” compound miters saws combined didn’t cost $600, and material stops are usually available from the manufacturer of the saw. Miter saws are more versitile than I think you know, some sliders you can set the depth of cut and do multiple passes for a dado cut, it beats the heck out of seting up a dado blade in the table saw for only one or two quick dadoes and then haveing to put the regular blade back in when your done. Every tool has it’s correct application. Work smarter, not harder my friend. Be one with the tool Grasshopper.

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