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12-22-2014 08:04 AM

Topic tags/keywords: mount rainier climate change warming

According to these changes on the mountain , it is getting harder and harder to deny climate change. The warming will have devastating affects on forests. A Canadian forester friend told me last spring about the warmer climate is already causing beetle killed pine issue acceleration.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#1 posted 12-22-2014 08:29 AM

This subject will certainly open a can of worms.

Well of course the climate is changing. It has been for millions of years. It been changing long before before Adam and eve and will change after Adam and Eve are gone. So yes there is climate change but it not your or my doing.

All the hoopla about climate change is brought to my our lying cheating government and the globalist who want more control over you and to extract more money from you. It’s political BS and nothing more. Al Gore is so concerned about climate climate change but he doesn’t lessen his carbon foot print and either does the rest of his cronies and neither does the rest of the elites. Explain that to me.

There are plenty of scientist who disagree that CC is not caused by man but of course they aren’t payed by the government for their research like to the one who fall in with the government do. Some even say you are in the early stages of a mini ice age.

BTW I didn’t waste my time viewing the propaganda in the link you posted.

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#2 posted 12-22-2014 08:32 AM


-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#3 posted 12-22-2014 11:49 AM

I like warmer weather.

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#4 posted 12-22-2014 11:54 AM

I like warmer weather.

- Mark Davisson

Great answer and I agree!

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#5 posted 12-22-2014 12:14 PM

To whom it may concern: Doesn’t the sand in your ears and eyes make it kind of hard to see and hear?

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#6 posted 12-22-2014 02:17 PM

BTW I didn t waste my time viewing the propaganda in the link you posted.

I think this says a lot right here.

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#7 posted 12-22-2014 04:37 PM

Humans are our worst enemy. Some, not all in my opinion. Too many Americans seem and are way, way, too wasteful of our lands. Seems they have no problem and don’t think twice before they wipe out acres and acres of trees, etc. I do believe some sort of apocalypse is coming, but, not really sure when.

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#8 posted 12-22-2014 04:54 PM

90% of the scientists agree that global warming is not some government plot to take over the world.

900,000 years of atmosphere from the past has been captured in the ice.

Yes, there is a 200K year cycle of temperatures rising and falling over that time, in unison with CO2 levels. It has been plotted and it is a very smooth rise and fall over that period.

This last cycle has almost doubled the warming effect, and so has CO2 levels emitted by the burning of petroleum hydrocarbons. Never have temperatures or CO2 levels ever been this high over this nearly 1 million year period.

CO2 levels go hand in hand with global temperatures and BOTH are double what they have even been in the last 900,000 years.

This is no longer a debate. This is scientific fact.

And all those who refuse to accept our influence over this planets health have the same disregard as those in power who only wish to fill their pockets with money. They care nothing about the legacy of our children and grand children. They will be the ones to pay the price for our arrogance and lack of consideration for this planets health and natural resources.

My money is still on mother nature. Our planet will still be around long after we are extinct.

P.S. Lake Mead will be unable to produce electricity due to the lack of water from the Colorado River within the decade. Millions will be without water and\or electricity. Water wells in California that used to measured in hundreds of feet are now measured in thousands of feet. The state will not be able to continue to grow fruit and vegetables for the rest of the country for much longer. Nut trees like almonds are being cut down by the hundreds every day because they can not afford to water them. FEMA is gearing up for this disaster and when martial law is declared, you can not say you never heard someone warn you.

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#9 posted 12-22-2014 04:57 PM

If the climate change is really being caused by man, why doesn’t everyone pressure China to cut back on
pollution. The green groups seem to like to concentrate on the cleaner countries where they can raise
more money for their causes and themselves instead on the countries that a causing most of the pollution.

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#10 posted 12-22-2014 05:17 PM

It is my belief that man is a nano spec in the scheme of things. If man really is the cause then I agree with bluepine, China and India are greater cause for concern than the USA. As for the post that 90% agree it is man made, I would like to see proof of that. Both sides seem to sway the numbers but the believers have more to gain since most are making money from their salivical spewing. If CO2 is really a concern than clearing the rain forrest is a bigger issue than my fun machines and industry.

-- Doug, South Carolina

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#11 posted 12-22-2014 05:24 PM

“Making money”? You’re comparing, at best, research grants to gargantuan oil company profits?

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#12 posted 12-22-2014 07:26 PM

The GOP is in flat denial that we are in any kind of global weather change, which is normal for them.

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#13 posted 12-22-2014 08:12 PM

Alaska Guy , and I share the exact same view.
Wow first they all told and complained to us we were causing Global Warming.Guess what there was no temperature change in terms of the planet heating up the scientists had to admit that eventually,as it has been very stable for a long time.
They never talk about global warming anymore! And now refer to the problem we face as climate change.
Lot’s of people have become very wealthy , and governments have also done well keeping us to change our ways and charging us plenty for the priviledge too.
Con men cashing in,like they alwaays do.
I saw someone in England selling real estate on the moon you get your own title deeds and all.The part of the moon you choose is then registered in your name for the future.RIGHT HA HA this is on the same level IMHO as those shysters. A Big Con as if we could do something about it anyway LOL now the latest way of saving the planet is to eat less meat.Really less meat ! The latest well thought out theory is if we all went a day a week without eating meat, then less cows would be needed ,less cows less less farting ,less farting is less methane, you get the picture well who worked that one out is a looney tunes merchant ! And besides I like meat.
Alistair we really are pathetic creatures humans,it’s so sad really it is, we end up believing any shite they can throw at us and the get paid for our inaction and incredible sense of fear and panic.Remember bush and mushroom those potential clouds and Blair with the forty five minutes to doomsday,at the end of it all it cost us billions not to say tens of thousand lives,and guess what they then found out it was all crap designed to frighten the beejeesus out of we commoners.Did they apologise please tell me I can’t remember ever hearing a word of we farked up big time sorry.I hope one day the people will eventually say NO.Alistair
It will be interesting to see what they come out with next.I find it sometimes quite entertaining but mostly annoying that they could insult my intelligence with this dribble.Pathetic.LOL b

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#14 posted 12-22-2014 08:19 PM

“Making money”? You re comparing, at best, research grants to gargantuan oil company profits?

- JJohnston

I would say that Al Gore and others like him have done as well as the oil companies.

-- Doug, South Carolina

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#15 posted 12-22-2014 08:34 PM

That article does not speculate about the cause. It merely documents melting ice eroding the park beyond their capacity to repair it. Parts of the west side are permanently closed to vehicles. The floods are filling the river beds exacerbating the issues. This is beginning to put old growth forests with 1000 year old trees in jeopardy.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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