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03-19-2014 03:04 PM

The recent happenings in the forums made me think seriously about the future of LumberJocks. This website has been built on the foundation of woodworking projects and knowledge sharing instead of general chat site for those that just want to buddy around. I came to a conclusion that these two principal differences cannot coexist under one roof.

I had to make this tough decision as soon as possible BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE. And I decided to go back to the roots of what made LumberJocks so special, and that is focus on woodworking. There are enough (well I’d say too many already) social websites to hang around in.

Instead I want LumberJocks to be the best online resource for novice as well as expert woodworkers through the unique woodworking projects showcase accompanied by great woodworking tutorials and constructive woodworking questions&answers in the forums.

Martin Sojka

Obviously Martin had great vision that has been lost, as we all can see the decline in the quality of this site,
compared to years back…

The social clubs that hang out in their own little threads only serves to divide the site.
(although it wasn’t meant to, it still does.)

The daily crying and bitching going on right now,
everybody thinks they should be running the site.
Cricket is trying to help keep the site respectable, but gets hammered for it. No Respect at all.
Majority of people complaining think this should be a free for all.

At least there are some nice projects being posted once in a while.
I’ll still stay around to check them out, because I’m addicted to wood,
I won’t comment or contribute anymore,
I understand, and have been told, I have a bad attitude.
Could be true!

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#1 posted 03-19-2014 03:18 PM

I don’t believe “everybody thinks they should be running the site.”It’s just a very small number people that it apears they may think that way,just because their are a handful of folks that enjoy discord ,is that a reason to consider not participating on LJs, We all grew up with folks like that in school,on the job and in life,so why let people like that rule your life now.
I feel very confident in Cricket’s ability to keep things civil and running smoothly .Lets not focus on a small minority of members that act out,but rather on all of the great folks ,projects and woodworking topics here on Ljs


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#2 posted 03-19-2014 03:49 PM

I’m with a1Jim. This site has been nothing but helpful and encouraging. The people here are for the most part always pleasant and quick to offer suggestions. And he’s right when he says Don’t let the dickheads of the world run/ruin your life.

-- Mark

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Gene Howe

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#3 posted 03-19-2014 04:03 PM

LJ’s is but one woodworking site I visit. But, it’s the best one!
The others are focused on generally one aspect or area of the craft. LJs covers it all and pretty darned well, too.
As to the “social” aspect of some of the threads, I like it that I can hangout with other woodworkers and discuss nearly anything….including woodworking.
Living in a pretty rural and secluded area, LJs is a major conduit to the rest of the woodworking world for me. I could live with out it, but I don’t want to.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#4 posted 03-19-2014 04:24 PM

It really is a shame, that you feel the way you do. I hope that your outlook improves and that you choose to participate by commenting and sharing. ;^)

Your solution, to your perceived site problems, is to withdraw, thereby making the site even less about the sharing of knowledge. Doesn’t that mean the a-holes win???

I have no problem with the socializing that transpires within Lumberjocks. For me, it has brought a diverse group of geographically scattered individuals closer together, made this large world a smaller place and helps PEOPLE navigate life’s travails. I don’t see how any of that is a bad thing.

I, proudly proclaim, am a “Stumpy Nubber”!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#5 posted 03-19-2014 04:27 PM

I’ve noticed the change as well, but it does not bother me AT ALL. My main focus here is the projects. It is the first thing I do every day, after coffee is made and poured. Then off to the shop. Back in around 11 for breakfast/lunch and some more LJs. Back to the shop by noon. In around 3 to check the news, chat with the wife and LJs. This is when I usually go the the forums. If I dont want to go to the forums and read the rabble, I dont. It is a choice, if the rabble upsets one, one should not expose ones self to that what upsets one. It is like the television (which

-- Made in America, with American made tools....Shopsmith

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#6 posted 03-19-2014 04:32 PM

I keep hearing how great this place used to be but have only been active here for a year ,so I ask ,what’s wrong with this place the way it is?I see nothing wrong with this place,I’m quite happy here and don’t see a need to go back to the way it used to be since I don’t know what it was like so I’m not missing anything.

The funny thing is,I see some good people pack up and leave but the self proclaimed “rebels” and the “bad boy wannabe”s still hang in here to do what they do best in their opinion.well in my opinion,they are the ones who should pack up and leave,it is time to take our site back ,keep our friends close but our enemy as far as possible.

-- Ken from Ontario, Canada

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#7 posted 03-19-2014 04:36 PM

I concur with the above statements.

Where else will you learn how to make one of these:

Lumber Jocks rock. Keep on turning!

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#8 posted 03-19-2014 04:59 PM

Thats awesome waho. Hope my wife doesn’t see it!

-- Paul, Duvall, WA

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Monte Pittman

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#9 posted 03-19-2014 05:56 PM

I am here for woodworking and that’s all I pay attention to. The owners have the right to run it how they see fit. I am just along for the ride.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Monte Pittman

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#10 posted 03-19-2014 06:02 PM

I will also add, that if an occasional annoyance with a FREE WEBSITE is the only thing I have to worry about, I would consider myself a very lucky person.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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#11 posted 03-19-2014 06:50 PM

DIY, my point exactly about dividing the site, although the “Nubber” thread is available to everyone, the participants care more to share within the nubber group instead of as a whole of the site. Therefore division….
A social community within the site… People that don’t subscribe to the Nubber thread miss out on all the great things the participants share in there…. Therefore division…

It really doesn’t matter to me though, I have made my bed…
I just wanted to point out that back when Martin started the site, (yes I have been around for 5 or so years) his vision is deteriorating whether it be for the good or bad only time will tell.

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#12 posted 03-19-2014 06:59 PM

Have you visited the pulse page today, “Good Luck”? 90% of them are new posts, by members seeking comments, knowledge sharing, or just to display their woodworking projects. I remember a time, not so long ago, that half were political rants of every ilk. And that was while His Holiness was still on-site.

But you’re leaving in spite of this content. Again, apparently. You’re missing your own point, I think.

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#13 posted 03-19-2014 08:06 PM

Good grief. This sit is the best I’ve ever belonged to. The camaraderie is a big part of that. You can’t please everyone, so good luck to anyone that walks out the door. As for me, I will continue to post and read, and learn. Thanks Lumberjocks!

-- Jerry... making sawdust in the Knobs of Southern Indiana

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#14 posted 03-19-2014 09:03 PM

Thank you Paul!

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#15 posted 03-19-2014 09:37 PM

@ Good Luck,
When I have a question or need advice, besides asking my Nubbers friends, I will also start a thread, thus allowing everyone the opportunity to chime in or learn. Does that happen all the time of course not. Unless an individual reads each and every thread, in it’s entirety, information will be missed. How many threads are started, then go on a tangent as the original question is answered.

I tried to look at your projects and it looks like you’ve been hacked….
All the pictures and your project text has been deleted.
Or did you take your ball and go home? If so, that is truly sad!!!

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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