Bosch 4100-09 or Ridgid R4512? What to buy.

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Forum topic by purdueboy posted 02-19-2014 03:00 AM 2851 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-19-2014 03:00 AM

Hi everyone,

I am new to the site and new to woodworking, though not to carpentry. I am in the construction management field, and have done a fair amount of carpentry in the past. But I have never done any furniture making. I have been thoroughly researching introductory level table saws in the $500 to $600 range. I will be making a headboard and bedframe as my first project out of cherry. Some cherry will be 8/4. So should I get the Bosch or the Ridgid? I have a small 1 car garage and I live in an old house. The circuit that feeds the garage is 120v – 15A. I have a couple of questions:

1. Does anyone know if the Ridgid will blow a 15A breaker upon startup? I can’t find this in the reviews. I am concerned about this. The motor is 13Amps at 120V. I really like the Ridgid, just worried about in-rush current upon startup. I am also worried about its size compared to the Bosch.

2. Would the Bosch and a good blade and outfeed supports handle 8/4 cherry? Again I am not going to be cutting 8/4 extensively. I would guess over the lifetime of the saw I might cut 300ft max of any 8/4 hard wood material. I am simply looking at this as a hobby on the weekends. One of the reasons I like the Bosch is the soft start motor.

Your opinions will help.

-- purdueboy

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#1 posted 02-19-2014 04:32 AM

I asked almost the exact same question last month. Here’s the thread:

Short version is that I got the Ridgid.

The choice was between an entry level cabinet/contractor saw and a high end portable no site saw. My reasoning was that while the Bosch is a great saw, it must make compromises for the sake of portability. While the Ridgid must sacrifice a lot to meet its price-point, it still has to meet the necessary needs to fill its niche (it can’t be a total POS.). Plus, it’s very well reviewed by people doing what I want to do with it. If I were remodeling houses and needed a saw to take onsite for trim carpentry or building stairs, built-ins, cabinet carcasses, outdoor furniture, etc, I’d get the Bosch, hands down. But I want to build face-frame kitchen cabinets, and arts and crafts furniture and other, mainly indoor, furniture. So I got the Ridgid, with the expectation that I’ll grow into, and out of it as I gain experience.

I have no doubt that the Bosch is a better made tool. My router and my sander are both Bosch and I love he design and attention to detail that they put into what they make as well as the thought they put into the accessories they include and offer. But it’s made to be used outdoors, and moved around and to make stuff that goes outdoors and behind other stuff.

As for the starting juice on the Ridgid… You might want to upgrade the breaker for your garage to give it a little headroom in case you’re running a shop vac or something on the same circuit at the same time. I think I’m on a 20 amp breaker and haven’t had any issues.

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#2 posted 02-19-2014 04:47 AM

I have a dewalt dw744. I’m not sure on the amps it pulls as it’s off site atm.

What I can tell you is a shop vac and my TS running at the same time will trip a 15 amp breaker.

This is from a relatively new woodworker. I payed approx $700 for my dewalt TS and mobile base for mobile contracting work a little over a year ago. I should have done more research. If your looking for a true woodworking TS none of the portables can compare to a true non mobile TS.

For the price I payed for my saw and take down portable base(IE throw in the back of my truck) I really wish I would have gone with a grizzly hybrid. (shop fox)

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#3 posted 02-19-2014 06:06 AM

I have the r4512 (also new to woodworking) and I finally setup my shop-vac to its DC port. At first it was fine, but the last few times I turned on the saw, I tripped the wire and was not able to run them both at the same time.

I have a 220 in my garage, I guess its time to switch the TS over so I can run dust collection.

I love the rigid btw, however take it for what its worth because I have ZERO experience with any other saw.

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#4 posted 02-19-2014 06:11 AM

I do have the ridgid, it won’t draw 15amps when you start it. It might if you make it work hard.
The Bosh and Ridgid saw are 2 different players.
I would get the Bosh if I had to move the saw around a lot otherwise I would get the Ridgid.
I had a chance to use the Bosch one for a short time, I was helping a friend do some work in his house and I simply prefer mine. It feels more “stable” and more solid.
Do not get me wrong the Bosch is a nice tools too, but I think it’s designed more for portability and the contractor type of work.
Again I had a very short experience with the Bosch and it was mostly carpentry we were doing.
The ridgid can easily be moved around, has a riving knife …. I like it !
just my 2 cents and good luck in your purchase

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#5 posted 02-19-2014 10:16 AM

My general rule is to buy portability only when you need portability, not due to price. If there’s not a need for portability, the lion’s share of advantages go to the stationary saw…..more real estate in front of the blade, more mass, more torque, much quieter, heavier duty construction, more accessories will fit, better reliability, more feasible to fix, and more upgrade potential.

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#6 posted 02-10-2015 12:50 PM

You have most probably figured it out by now, but my R4512 did the exact same thing, what I found was the wire had come off the start capcitor. I had to disassemble the saw a turn the top upside down to access the capacitors. When the start capcitor is not in the circuit, it will draw high amps and trip the breaker, after re-attaching the wire, the saw starts every time.

-- LGS, Ijamsville, Md

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#7 posted 02-10-2015 01:14 PM

I had the Bosch with portable stand. It was a great saw for what it is, a well made portable jobsite saw. I had the digital rip fence, optional left side extension and optional outfeed extension. I was able to make cabinets and a host of other smaller projects, I only had to cut 8/4 once and I really didn’t have a problem, just had to go slow. I used a thin kerf diablo blade, the stock blade is ok for framing construction but not woodworking. I went with that originally because I was in a small shop and I figured I could fold the saw up and move it out of the way. Once I started adding other tools the garage became a permanent shop and cars no longer lived in it. At that point the saw never moved. The only issues are its weight when trying to cut full sheets of ply, really isn’t a great idea. I decided to replace it with a Sawstop, not because it was a bad saw but I wanted the solid feel of a cabinet saw. If the saw isn’t going to need to fold up out of the way I would go with a cast iron saw, they are just so much more sturdy, also look at the grizzly hybrid, Ive heard good things on that saw in the sub $1000 category. Good luck on the purchase.

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#8 posted 02-10-2015 02:59 PM

What will blow breakers is bogging the saw down. Get a good rip blade and you will be fine.

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#9 posted 02-15-2015 04:09 AM

I own the Bosch as a job site saw. It performs flawlessly for that purpose. Also at the job site, I keep a track saw for cutting down sheet materials. You wouldn’t want to attempt that on any table saw that folds up. I cut quite a but of 8/4 oak on this saw last week with no issues. It doesn’t pop a 15 amp circuit breaker. I like the portability of this model and it certainly trumps the previous Craftsman/Ryobi model.

-- Thanks, Rich

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