master of the mouth

  • Advertise with us

« back to Sweating for Bucks Through Woodworking forum

Forum topic by Joseph Jossem posted 02-01-2014 05:23 PM 2630 views 0 times favorited 44 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View Joseph Jossem's profile

Joseph Jossem

492 posts in 3603 days

02-01-2014 05:23 PM


SO i talked to this guy and he is a self proclaimed master.Knows everything from a to z he is a genious.he reached this level of skill withn a few years every thing he touches is amazing…..............

Ive been at this for a long time and I am not a master of anything.But after so long I am so sick of others claiming they are the best.Not sure if it is the same across the mainland but must be something in the water here.Whats is it that gets into peoples heads when they make a few things?For me its pride in building something out of waste.I have noticed for alot of others it is a status symbol or bragging rights?I even get instuctions from those types on how to run my business and chainsaw and mill etc..

The other day a customer told me how to do mill work so I started the chainsaw and handed it to him the look on his face was priceless!

44 replies so far

View bbc557ci's profile


670 posts in 3409 days

#1 posted 02-01-2014 05:29 PM

Hell by the time I was 18-20 I knew way more than anyone else. Really I did!!

Now, I’ll be 63 in a couple of weeks and I don’t know squat. I just don’t get it ;o)

-- Bill, central where near the "big apple"

View Joseph Jossem's profile

Joseph Jossem

492 posts in 3603 days

#2 posted 02-01-2014 05:37 PM

thats a good one at 18 i was a master of everything but knew nothing…..

View DKV's profile


3940 posts in 3839 days

#3 posted 02-01-2014 06:54 PM

Youtube, blame it on Youtube. Watch a few videos, tell yourself it’s not hard and bingo you are an expert. The dovetail experts on Youtube make you think it is easy…and we all know that is not true.

-- This is a Troll Free zone.

View Joseph Jossem's profile

Joseph Jossem

492 posts in 3603 days

#4 posted 02-01-2014 06:58 PM

dkv when homedepot started running those classes suddenly everybody is a contractor.

View TheWoodenOyster's profile


1351 posts in 3270 days

#5 posted 02-01-2014 07:33 PM

Ha. This is classic. It reminds me of myself in the garage last night. I had this awesome table design in my head and rough cut out the parts. Yesterday I was looking at the parts thinking to myself “How in the heck am I going to do this joinery???”. I get ahead of myself all of the time, thinking “That won’t be that hard” or “I saw that guy do this on youtube”. Well, I am slowly learning that it will be that hard. I definitely never claim to be the best, and I am far from it.

I will say this though, when you are around people who have no experience with wood or really any building material for that matter, people do think you are the best. I have run into the complete opposite siuation as you. I am surrounded by friends and family, none of whom really know anything about how to build anything three dimensional, so they think I have some sort of hidden knowledge. I try to encourage everyone I meet to try building something. They say the stuff I build is cool, but I tell them that if I can do it they can do it. I have no special powers and I have only minimal experience. I am very glad and happy to be surrounded by admirers whom I can encourage to get out there and build their own stuff. It is cool to be the one that people look to when something needs to get built or put together. I am sorry for your situation and I would definitely be frustrated if I were in your spot.

I love it that you handed him the chainsaw. That is freaking hilarious.

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

View TheWoodenOyster's profile


1351 posts in 3270 days

#6 posted 02-01-2014 07:35 PM

By the way Joseph, just looked at your stuff and it is beautiful. I definitely would be admiring your work and trying to learn from you. I would definitely not be telling you how to do anything. You do incredible work with incredible wood. Keep it up!

-- The Wood Is Your Oyster

View bowedcurly's profile


519 posts in 3064 days

#7 posted 02-01-2014 07:42 PM

I done forgot what I know I guess a new day a new way

-- Staining killed the wood<<<<<>>>>>Dyeing gave it life

View Joseph Jossem's profile

Joseph Jossem

492 posts in 3603 days

#8 posted 02-01-2014 08:08 PM

Thanks oyster it was pretty funny

View Gerald Thompson's profile

Gerald Thompson

1309 posts in 3569 days

#9 posted 02-01-2014 09:11 PM

I am a registered Nurse and I do home health care. Once I was putting a Wound Vac on a patient This is a device that applies suction to significant wound a promote healing. They are not the easiest to apply and archive suction with no leaks. The patient’s daughter, who was an antiques dealer, was watching. I had no more started applying the adhesive drape around the wound periphery and she started to tell me how to do it. I asked her if she had done many of these before. She replied “No.”
I got a call later in the day that I had been rude to the patient’s daughter.
They’re everywhere.

-- Jerry

View SCOTSMAN's profile


5849 posts in 4920 days

#10 posted 02-01-2014 10:01 PM

Now this post is extremely unfair some of us do know everything I freely admit it.It’s sometimes hard being a genius especially when you are such a handsome devil of a genious, but then if you met my family and also studied nuclear physics then you would expect no less.Alistair

Sing Oh lordee it’s hard to be humbell when you getta better lookin each daaaay each time I look in the mirror all together now.LOL

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

View Craftsman on the lake's profile

Craftsman on the lake

3892 posts in 4772 days

#11 posted 02-01-2014 10:24 PM

I’ve alway been envious of people who maybe don’t know everything but can ‘understand’ anything they wish. i.e. I’ve always been interested but not that good at mathematics. I went as far as I could in school, trig. But I know I hit a wall at some point. This is just an example. I know some people are good with their heads and others with their hands, etc. But, I have known some people who can understand anything they want to. If they decide to learn advanced calculus, well they might need a classroom to do it but they will learn and understand it. It must be nice to be able to understand anything you want to, not just in math, but the sciences, engineering and the other myriad of topics. No walls.

-- The smell of wood, coffee in the cup, the wife let's me do my thing, the lake is peaceful.

View basswood's profile


264 posts in 2955 days

#12 posted 02-01-2014 10:29 PM

Now you have to understand that being a master is not all it is cracked up to be. It is a lot of pressure. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Some people treating you like you walk on water, others just waiting for you to slip up so they can deride you publicly!

That is partly tongue in cheek, but I received two messages this week that, to me are humbling and still odd to respond to:

“good to see you here brian! you bring alot to the table and vast knowledge. im constantly thinking what would basswood do”

“Every time I see one of your posts, be it on Facebook or on this forum, I either learn something or my interest is piqued.

Did you go to a school for woodworking, or have you just been absorbing every bit of knowledge you come across for years?

Got any recommended reading, specifically about carpentry or wood?

You’re awesome!”

I responded to both messages this week with thanks and offered whatever information I thought would be helpful.

I used to resist the label of “master” even when several of the articles I submitted to Fine Homebuilding were published in the “Master Carpenter” column. I finally gave in, realizing that it is a strange kind of arrogance to assume that the labels other ascribe to you are invalid. It is actually rude to not accept such a compliment. Such rudeness is telling someone that you know better than they what a master is or what good work is.

So there is a different way to look at the topic. I realize this is a bit different than proclaiming yourself a master. Those who do should know that you are probably not worthy of the title if you claim it for yourself. On the other hand, if others claim it for you, who are you to refuse it. Not something to be taken lightly, and pretty big shoes to fill.


View Nicholas Hall's profile

Nicholas Hall

352 posts in 3441 days

#13 posted 02-01-2014 10:53 PM

For handing him the chainsaw, you are truly the master of the unspoken “if you’re so effing smart, be my guest”. It is an obscure technique, but nonetheless one which is appreciated by all.

I would have paid money to see the look on his face :)

-- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx

View woodbutcherbynight's profile


10633 posts in 3744 days

#14 posted 02-01-2014 10:55 PM

I became a Master ASE Technician in 1996, wore the patches until 2004 as a requirement to get the pay that went with the accomplishment. Today, private shop, I do NOT wear anything that says I know or might know or could maybe find out anything about mechanical work. I even change my clothes before leaving work so when I stop and get gas, food, etc etc nobody can look at me and tell what I do for a living.

Reason: While I have retained this certification I know well that it is only a book test and has nothing to do with true real world ability. During my 25 years as a tech I have worked with some excellent techs that had no certs and some complete morons that could talk you to death and did not know anything. Second I am DONE with work at the end of a 10 hour day, I leave work at work and come home to my woodshop and do something not automotive. The last thing I want is to be asked a million questions in line at the store.

Or I could just be a jerk who knows? (laughing)

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

View wseand's profile


2796 posts in 4376 days

#15 posted 02-01-2014 11:22 PM

I think most people just have a need to impress for what ever reason, they may know a lot but don’t know how to express themselves properly.
Eagerness, lack of confidence, or just plain over exuberance. Most are harmless just trying to impress you with their knowledge and charm, whether they have any of either or not.

I’ll take your chainsaw challenge and impress you with my ability to not cut my leg off.

showing 1 through 15 of 44 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics