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Darrell Peart

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02-01-2014 02:30 PM

I just wanted to post a quick heads up to fellow Lumberjock members. I just discovered a furniture making business on the web that appears to have not only stolen an image of my work but also several images from postings here at lumberjocks – They images and designs are offered for sale in their portfolio.

I personally feel it is a great compliment when someone thinks enough of one of my designs to copy it for personal use ( no money involved) But if it is a commercial venture that is NOT OK.

here is the link to the offending site…

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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#1 posted 02-01-2014 02:37 PM

This problem has been exposed many times before.
I think that the conclusion was that there is nothing we can do about it.
I would be pissed if someone stole my design to make money with it and without giving a percentage but I do not have to post my designs and if I do post them, I know the risk I take.
Everything posted on the Internet is immediately, that you agree with it or not ,made public.
If you do not like that, do not post your projects.

-- Bert

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#2 posted 02-01-2014 02:45 PM

Bert , while I agree that we do not have to post our designs outright theft of a design is just that, theft and can be prosecuted. The images are protected by copyright law the second the photos are taken and DMCA when posted to the internet. Copying someone’s design and claiming it is your own ( which is what they are doing because they are using the original images not photos of the version they built is illegal and even in the furniture business can be enforced. IKEA has been sued and Room & Board has also both lost . Darrell, thanks for the heads up.

-- Nothing's just gets expensive

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#3 posted 02-01-2014 02:50 PM

Bert – there is a lot of misconception out there. I have consulted with an attorney and especially when they have stolen not only my design but my photo – I can go after them legally. I make a living from this – like I have said, I feel it a great compliment when someone copies my work for personal use (again no money involved) – But I will not allow another to make a profit from my property which I have spent my entire adult life working towards.

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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#4 posted 02-01-2014 03:00 PM

They are so arrogant to actually use your photo on their website. I think you must hit hard Darrel!!

-- Leon . [email protected]

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#5 posted 02-01-2014 03:04 PM

Darell, I just looked at your webpage, I love your work.
I want to keep the Internet as free as possible, free from cops and regulations.
The government , all governments, do everything they can to change that, especially our government .
This freedom, like every freedom, has a price. The price you pay is one of them.
You are free to post or to not post.
You post , you take a risk.
This certainly does not mean that I do not understand your position or that I do not care.I do care.
You are an artist and you own your designs but again you take the risk by posting the pictures of your work.
No one force you to do it.

-- Bert

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#6 posted 02-01-2014 03:05 PM

For some clarification see this article by Pop Wood

-- Darrell Peart - Seattle - - author G&G Design Elements for the Workshop

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#7 posted 02-01-2014 03:07 PM

Very tacky, one should not have to water mark there pics here on LJ, but seems like some folks have no class.

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#8 posted 02-01-2014 03:22 PM

Yeah, people steal stuff on the internet. You should imagine that problem from the point of view of a photographer, since the image is the product. At least they can’t resell the piece of furniture that you made…

-- David - Tucson, AZ

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#9 posted 02-01-2014 03:30 PM

This is the reason I started adding my logo as a watermark on my angelfish. I haven’t found a need with my woodworking, but that is probably only because I don’t really search other woodworking sites but this one.

-- JoeyG ~~~

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#10 posted 02-01-2014 03:36 PM

That’s a low down rotten thing to do. A letter from an attorney will probably get the photo down quickly, but it probably won’t stop them from building one of their own and photographing it.

-- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho Marx

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#11 posted 02-01-2014 03:46 PM

Their from NJ….. go figure :^o

-- Matt -- I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam

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#12 posted 02-01-2014 03:50 PM

I’m stealing all your designs. You make some incredible furniture.

I see the dilemma here, you don’t want someone to profit off your designs but you want to post your work online.

I don’t make anything that someone would want to steal so it’s not personal to me. I also don’t prosper off anyone one design because it is all custom, one off. I am sure at some point my design has been stolen from someone else’s pic and i just think I came up with it all on my own..

If I was in a position like yours Darrell I would bend someone over one of your tables and have Bubba make them his girlfriend.

Take pics with your phone to post on LJ, problem solved.

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#13 posted 02-01-2014 03:54 PM

Darrell, I’m not sure how the theft of your artistic design would play out but I assume your attorney has that covered. I wonder if your post about this issue had the right key words if would not show up on search engines when ever thefurniturewerks page shows up in searches. I would not hire a builder contractor who steals photos and misrepresents their accomplishments.

I did not notice your design but I did see a distinctive curly maple jewelry cabinet from here, then I quit looking. I hate to say it but I do wonder if the admin might need consider using a watermarking app for our viewing pleasure.

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#14 posted 02-01-2014 03:55 PM

I’m offended….none of my designs or pics were infringed upon! ;-)

Seriously Darrell – It’s one thing to mimic a design, but it’s quite another to actually use your photos in their gallery and imply it’s their own….that intuitively seems like it should be illegal.

p.s. You do some really incredible work!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#15 posted 02-01-2014 03:58 PM

Darrell, you were right to talk to an attorney. Contact that jerk site and tell them to take down that stuff, and contact LJ. I don’t know how your business is set up, whether you have copyrights to your work, but this is in the TOS of the LJ site:

We respect the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users to do the same. If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please send us the following information:

1. an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;
2. a description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;
3. a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;
4. your address, telephone number, and email address;
5. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
6. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner’s behalf.

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