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Forum topic by C_PLUS_Woodworker posted 12-18-2013 06:05 AM 1854 views 0 times favorited 34 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-18-2013 06:05 AM

This happened a couple of days ago near St. George….red-rock county.
Just a few days ago, several HUGE boulders, some larger than a house were loosened by Mother Nature and rolled down a steep mountain for over one-forth-of-a-mile before slamming into a house at the bottom….. totally demolishing the house and killing the two occupants.

They have recovered the two bodies.

And…then…….there was this article.

BE SURE to read the article…......

And, watch the less-than-a-minute video.

You will be amazed at the size of these boulders that broke loose.

Reading this gave me the same sick feeling in my gut as I had in “Nam when I saw guys stripping the dead for anything of value or interest.

These THIEVES deserve a 50 cent piece of lead right to the back of their heads.

And I have a life-time and very personal acquaintance with a 66 year-old guy that will do the deed in a heart-beat.

I know that thievery is everywhere….. everyday….... but this one really got to me.

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#1 posted 12-18-2013 07:36 AM

Cplus, I agree with you. I also think that folks that have fender benders during rush hour should be shot in the head for not paying attention. Do you realize the number of folks that are inconvenienced?

-- If it's doable, I'll do it...if it's been done, I've done it...if it's impossible, I'll try it.

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#2 posted 12-18-2013 11:12 AM

What really struck me about this story is: how can people put themselves in such a dangerous place and the authorities let them do it?
Who in his right mind would ahve a house anywhere close to huge unstable and unsafe boulders?
These boulders did not just appear, they have been there for hundreds or even thousands of years.
Just like people who build their house in a flood plain, in a dry forest or in a hurricane prone region, they are i…...ts expecting the insurance companies, paid with our money, to pay for their stupidity.
They piss me off.
Year after year the same houses are destroyed, the owners keep rebuilding them, and WE pay for them through our insurances
My opinion

-- Bert

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#3 posted 12-18-2013 06:01 PM

Typical low life SOBs ! They should be strung up by their gonads for the crows to be picked at.

-- When I was a kid I wanted to be older . . . . . this CRAP is not what I expected ! RIP 09/08/2018

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#4 posted 12-18-2013 06:38 PM

I don’t agree with the death penalty but the thieves you describe are worse than animals so sad these two lovely people killed in this way and to have the added insult of mindless a$$holes sorry I just feel angry sorry c plus for these words on your post, but I do. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#5 posted 12-18-2013 06:52 PM


You and I have not had an opportunity to “dialog” in a Forum or about a project, but even without that I can tell you straight up that I have always liked and respected your posts. Your words come from a great guy…....YOU.

You have my greatest respect and have given me (and all of us) many great comments to read… thanks so much.

As to you having a problem with anything I wrote…........that is totally cool.

Diversity is what makes life interesting…..........

.......... and I believe diversity or opposition are extremely important in many huge issues we all deal with.

Checks and balances.

We need polarized zealots on each end of any important issue

Diversity and opposition usually work through a process and arrive at a “place” (mostly) acceptable to both parties.

Or even at a “place” better than either party had imagined.


Thanks for reading my Forum…............and thanks even more for your thoughtful response.

My very best…..........Bruce

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#6 posted 12-18-2013 07:01 PM

Thanks Bruce I didn’t want to encroach onto your post with the A$$——- word but hey your absolutely correct in what you say. As a man myself who had his young brother murdered I see exactly where your coming from I never agreed with the death penalty but sometimes am drawn close to saying it’s what they deserve.I hope you don’t mind but I am proud to say I just made you my newest buddy God bless you and all my friends here many beautiful people not hard to find in the United states of America . Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#7 posted 12-18-2013 07:06 PM

Alistair…..........I am honored by being selected as one of your Buddy’s and took the liberty of adding your name to mine.

Nice meeting you…..... buddy.

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#8 posted 12-18-2013 08:21 PM

likewise Bruce, since joining lumberjocks a few years back now, I have been constantly impressed with the level of spiritual generosity shown here one member to the other.I was diagnosed with parkinsons disease at the young age of 43 ish can’t quite remember exactly and had to put an end to a lot of my ideas for the future for example I was a keen folk guitarist now I havent done that since but I decided to build myself a super workshop actually two one for woodworking and the other for machining another one of my interests .Nowadays I can’t do too much but if I really take my time succed in a little of everything somethimes with help othertimes on my own I turn out a few smaller projects a year.The secret for me is not to rush, and whilst I take a lot longer and most days just go to the shop to sit and tidy up a bit here and there I love it my own space where I can get away from the blooming tv.I have been lucky enough to have a great machiniing forum where I made many friends and here where I made many more yourself today included There are some very wonderful people here and I am very fortunate to be among such good people.I want no sympathy if you knew me better you would see most of the time with proper meds I do pretty well and enjoy life to the full and have a very wicked sense of humour enjoying a good laugh everyday. I simply(apart from my lovely family 3 sons and my other half )Bronwen my beautiful wife of 42 years now .
I have a love for my woodshop which I cannot really do justice to in a few words I live for my woodshop and engineering shop mostly wood though I sleep eat and live for my shop.

Now god bless all of you and I hope and pray at 62 now for another year or many more with you all have the very best Christmas and new year I could wish to anyone kindest regards Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#9 posted 12-18-2013 11:01 PM

Alistair, this is a lovely testimony.
You are correct, there are many great people on LJs

-- Bert

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#10 posted 12-20-2013 12:09 AM

A couple of weeks ago, we had an Ice storm in Dallas. The roads were covered with Black Ice. This rough looking kid of about 25 was on the side of the road looking for a ride. The weather was miserable and he had to be freezing. He looked a bit dangerous – so I stopped to pick him up. I didn’t think anyone else would given him a break. I had to move my sunglasses off the passenger seat for him to sit. I put them in the center tray of my car and forgot about them.

Several days later the sun came out and I searched for the sun glasses. I practically tore the car apart while searching every nook and cranny. The sun glasses are gone. Perscription glasses. They are worthless to everyone else except me.

2 things bother me. One – I’m almost positve my passenger took them. Being positive about something that is untrue is not a good thing. I just can’t shake the idea that he took them. Two – because of that, I’m pretty sure that the next rough looking person, freezing on the side of the road, is going to keep on freezing because it’s not suppossed to cost me $300 to help someone who just needs a ride.

If I decide to give $300 – fine, It’s happened many times in the past. If someone decides to just take it from me – I lose trust. The cost to humanity is more than just my petty 300$. It’s also what I used to be willing to give.

This sucks. I’m sure I’ll get over it but in the meantime, there’s a guy who can really use the money who is willing to help me clear out the garage. I feel like he might help himself to something valuable. No deal.

I had to vent. Some things are just plain wrong and everyone get’s injured. I view horrendous acts like stealing from the unfortunate folk in this post as another nail in the coffin. It’s another reason why folk would keep on driving past a freezing hitch hiker whether he looked harmless or not. No one gives blind trust to anyone anymore. Maybe we never did?

In my view – we have flipped. We may have thought that others would inherently do the right thing. I’m beginning to think the opposite. I’m really pissed about that. The metaphorical bullet to the head is sounding good. The idea I’m leaning toward is putting me inside a locked room with some of the jerks. By the time the door opens something would be really clear to them. I am NOT their victim.

-- Thanks for all the lessons!

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#11 posted 12-20-2013 12:35 AM

Looting from the dead is despicable but certainly not new.

As far as slides go, Google the term “frank slide” in Alberta and see how a rock slide obliterated a whole community back in 1903. The main highway (TransCanada) cuts right through the slide field The size of this slide is unbelievable ….

And Bert – while I agree that willful stupidity shouldn’t be tolerated, I’m pretty sure that the folks in that house won’t be rebuilding ….. there or anywhere else.

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#12 posted 12-20-2013 01:15 AM

I guess if you were a radical liberal (ref. Wealth Distribution thread) you could say the reason they were stealing was because their McDonald’s job only paid minimum wage.

-- The Jesus is my Savior

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#13 posted 12-20-2013 02:25 AM

Mark….......I know exactly how you feel. EXACTLY.

And, you wrote it so well, your thoughts and feelings really came through.

Not to diminish at all, but I think any of us that have a few years behind us….......have their own similar stories.

It is so different from the days when no one locked their homes…..........even if going on extended trips.

I almost started to tell “a story” just now…..........but….....


It is the loss of trust …...... and now having to be more “alert” that obviously is worth WAY more than the $300.

And, believe me when I say that it really does “cost” personally to have to watch every damn thing for fear of problems.

Especially when it comes to protecting and preserving your precious loved ones…....and their safety and concerns and possessions.


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#14 posted 12-20-2013 06:08 AM

There are vultures in every part of the animal kingdom but human beings are supposed to have a degree of compassion.

Apparently these were inhuman beings!

-- "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- Aldous Huxley

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#15 posted 12-20-2013 06:56 AM

Everyday new scumbags always present themselves. I was watching the news today and I forget if it was in Ohio, Michigan or Indiana, but these guys were driving around stealing packages people had delivered. The worst was a family ordered all of this stuff for their 5 year old son and it was all taken. Hopefully the police can catch these morons since they caught it on camera.

-- Bryan, South River, NJ

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