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Forum topic by anqi posted 12-10-2008 05:18 AM 2877 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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anqi

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12-10-2008 05:18 AM

I really love to true the wood manually by plane, which can avoid dust and noise plus enjoy hand work. Do you think whether it is feasible to make a table top without jointer? How difficult will it be? I plan to build a coffee table. Thanks.


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map

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#1 posted 12-10-2008 05:26 AM

If you plane the edges that are to be glued at the same time (side by side) and then open them up for glueing like a book match, yoiu should get a perfect joint. I saw this in one of the woodworking magazines receintly, can’t remember which one though.

map

-- measure once, cut once, swear, start over

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Tom Adamski

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#2 posted 12-10-2008 07:34 AM

Long before there were power jointers, people did it with elbow grease and a plane… At least you will get a good work out, and hopefully a nice looking table too.

-- Anybody can become a woodworker, but only a Craftsman can hide his mistakes.

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DaveH

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#3 posted 12-10-2008 07:37 AM

A good quality blade with a high teeth count and a properly setup table saw (fence parallel to the blade) should get you there. I’ve done many table top joints using this method and you can barely see the glue joint.

-- DaveH - Boise, Idaho - “How hard can it be? It's only wood!”

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marcb

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#4 posted 12-10-2008 04:13 PM

I hope you understand the exact level of effort that this will be if made from rough stock. I have hand jointed quite a bit and it is rough work. Thank goodness cooler weather is here if your going to get started soon.

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martin007

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#5 posted 12-10-2008 04:49 PM

I suggest you give it a try, You might just like it :o)

-- Martin, Gatineau, Québec

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EEngineer

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#6 posted 12-10-2008 04:56 PM

map-

This doesn’t make sense to me. For example, if you have a high spot, then both pieces will have the high spot in the same place. Any angle across the width of the boards will be compensated for this way but I think it still has to be planed very flat lengthwise. This, for me anyway, is the real challenge in hand planing.

-- "Find out what you cannot do and then go do it!"

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marcb

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#7 posted 12-10-2008 05:09 PM

EEngineer,

The jointer plane rides along high spots talking a slice. After a number of passes the high spots have been cut down .

Having both pieces glue edges jointed at the same time compensates for the plane being possibly out of square. You can do similar, and it is recommended with a power jointer. Just one piece at a time with the power jointer.

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Dick, & Barb Cain

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#8 posted 12-10-2008 05:59 PM

If you have a table mounted router, it can be done with a straight bit.

The out feed fence should be set even with the blades, or it won’t work right.

Here’s a good explanation on how to do it.

-- -** You are never to old to set another goal or to dream a new dream ****************** Dick, & Barb Cain, Hibbing, MN. http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/gallery/member.php?uid=3627&protype=1

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Loren

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#9 posted 12-10-2008 06:20 PM

Go For It!

You will get aches and pains from doing the work for sure
but it’s really no big deal. You might want to wear gloves
if your hands aren’t toughened because doing all that work
with planed may give you blisters.

I’ve flattened a lot of boards by hand. I would normally use
a coarse mouth Jack with a cambered iron set for a heavy
cut, then to a fiiner cut with another Jack, the to a #4
smoother.

Flattening the board faces with a jointer planes just makes
more work for you. Jointing the glue lines with a jointer
is good though. It’s a little maddening to learn how to do it.

I personally wouldn’t want to hand-joint edges without a
78” level to check them. A long level is one of my most used
tools when building solid wood stuff.

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Blake

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#10 posted 12-10-2008 07:33 PM

I agree. It can be done with a jointer plane and elbow grease. I think they sell elbow grease at Home Depot.

-- Happy woodworking!

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Wingstress

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#11 posted 12-11-2008 12:18 AM

I like to use my router table as a jointer, although you are definitly limited by the length of the router bit

-- Tom, Simsbury, CT

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Quixote

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#12 posted 12-11-2008 02:43 AM

Anqi.

Do you need a jointer plane?

Yes.

Buy several planes of different sizes.

Sometimes it isn’t about the destination, it’s all about the ride….

Q

-- I don't make sawdust...I produce vast quantities of "Micro Mulch."

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juniorjock

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#13 posted 12-11-2008 03:27 AM

Hell yes you need a jointer….... When you’re ready to buy one. And not a second sooner. It wasn’t my my first purchase but I’m very happy that I finally bought it.
-JJ

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