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Forum topic by wookie posted 06-30-2013 07:36 PM 1563 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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06-30-2013 07:36 PM

Topic tags/keywords: java gel stain question

Hey Guys and Gals,

Anybody had any issues with putting an oil based poly over an oil based gel stain? Using General finishes oil gel in Java and also bought the oil based clear. Staining oak ply and oak trim, let it set on there a minute and then wiped it off trying blend it with pressure to get the effect I want. I have heard some people having issues with reactivation of the gel stain when trying to clearcoat it. Also, should I sand the stain before clearcoating or is it alright to he clear over it without sanding? As always your input is appreciated.


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#1 posted 06-30-2013 09:57 PM

The only way in which I could see you having trouble here is if you try to apply the poly before the gel stain is completely cured. As a rule, oil based finishes won’t reactivate oil based stains if the stain is completely cured. This is because mineral spirits acts a thinner for both products, rather than as a solvent. This is why you can clean a dirty varnished surface with mineral spirits or naphtha without harming the finish. Having said that, there’s nothing stopping you from applying a coat of dewaxed shellac between your stain and your clear finish.

All the best with you project!

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#2 posted 07-01-2013 02:34 AM

I would let the stain cure for at least three days, followed by a rubdown with maroon scotchbrite. Wipe off any loose powder with cloth or paper towel, and finish with the clear. Shellac is a superfluous complication.

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#3 posted 07-01-2013 03:48 AM

Thanks guys. I have been allowing lots of cure time. Will try the scotchbrite. This is going to be like a centerpiece in my daughter’s apt. and I didn’t want get to far along without some expert advice first. Thanks again and I’ll post it when finished. Hope you all will take a look. BTW,I’m using Arm R’ Seal.


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#4 posted 07-02-2013 12:27 AM

Ok lets make this easy. I built my first project a farm table. I used the General Gel stain and clear It is all but idiot proof. Mine came out great and it’s the first thing I ever stained. having happy feet.

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