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08-28-2008 12:57 PM

I got an email today and I never thought of it this way.

I mean why should I? I only hear billion used when I here how much the oil companies made before lunch, national debt , or when Warren Buffet or Bill Gates are in the news.
> >
> >
> > This is too true to be funny.
> >
> > The next time you hear a politician use the
> > word ‘billion’ in a casual manner, think about
> > whether you want the ‘politicians’ spending
> > YOUR tax money.
> >
> > A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
> > but one advertising agency did a good job of
> > putting that figure into some perspective in
> > one of it’s releases.
> >
> >
> > A.
> > A billion seconds ago it was 1959.
> >
> > B.
> > A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.
> >
> > C.
> > A billion hours ago our ancestors were
> > living in the Stone Age.
> >
> > D.
> > A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
> >
> > E.
> > A billion dollars ago was only
> > 8 hours and 20 minutes,
> > at the rate our government
> > is spending it.
> >
> > While this thought is still fresh in our brain…
> > let’s take a look at New Orleans …
> > It’s amazing what you can learn with some simple division.
> >
> >
> > Louisiana Senator,
> > Mary Landrieu (D)
> > is presently asking Congress for
> > to rebuild New Orleans . Interesting number…
> > what does it mean?
> >
> > A.
> > Well.. if you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans
> > (every man, woman, and child)
> > you each get $516,528.
> >
> > B.
> > Or… if you have one of the 188,251 homes in
> > New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.
> >
> > C.
> > Or… if you are a family of four…
> > your family gets $2,066,012.
> >
> > Washington, D. C
> >
> > < HELLO! >
> > Are all your calculators broken??
> >
> > Accounts Receivable Tax
> > Building Permit Tax
> > CDL License Tax
> > Cigarette Tax
> > Corporate Income Tax
> > Dog License Tax
> > Federal Income Tax < BR>Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
> > Fishing License Tax
> > Food License Tax
> > Fuel Permit Tax
> > Gasoline Tax
> > Hunting Licen se Tax
> > Inheritance Tax
> > Inventory Tax
> > IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
> > IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
> > Liquor Tax
> > Luxury Tax
> > Marriage License Tax
> > Medicare Tax
> > Property Tax
> > Real Estate Tax
> > Service charge taxes
> > Social Security Tax
> > Road Usage Tax (Truckers)
> > Sales Taxes
> > Recreational Vehicle Tax
> > School Tax
> > State Income Tax
> > State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
> > Telephone Federal Excise Tax
> > Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
> > Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax
> > Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
> > Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
> > Telephone State and Local Tax
> > Telephone Usage Charge Tax
> > Utility Tax
> > Vehicle License Registration Tax
> > Vehicle Sales Tax
> > Watercraft Registration Tax
> > Well Permit Tax
> > Workers Compensation Tax
> >
> >
> > Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago…
> > and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
> >
> > We had absolutely no national debt…
> > We had the largest middle class in the world…
> > and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
> >
> > What happened?
> > Can you spell ‘politicians!’
> >
> > And I still have to
> > press ‘1’
> > for English.
> >
> >
> > What the heck happened?????

How many zeros in a billion?

-- Kirk H. --

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#1 posted 08-28-2008 01:25 PM

Check out the video “Powers of Ten” by Ray & Charles Eames from Netflix of somesuch. The tax thing is just stupid and in answer to the last question:

How many zeros in a billion?

None, but there is an “i” after the “b” and an “o” in front of the “n”.

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#2 posted 08-28-2008 03:25 PM

That’s an amazing piece. It’s just mind-blowing the amount of money that flows through the US Government – not to mention the state and local governments.

Another mind-blower: can you imagine if there was just ONE tax for the the US Government – let’s say 10% of your income, one for the state, let’s say 3%, and a local, 1%? No loopholes, everybody pays the same percentage. The amount of money that would flood into the economy and into the tax coffers (as counter-intuitive as that seems), would be insane.

The tax issue is just insane now in this country. Most of it goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or other entitlement programs. Just try to slay those fat cows, as a politician.

It’s really too bad; this country wasn’t build by people treating the government like an ATM. I listen to the likes of liberal democrats, and the overlying theme is “If you don’t have it , we’ll get it for you!” – if you elect us. That makes me sick. Now we have a population that will be older coming up, and no younger population to support them – thanks to abortion wiping out some 40 million people. That means more people on entitlements. We are a rich country, but not limitless in our supply.

Ok, that’s my rant. Thanks! :)

-- Have a blessed day!

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#3 posted 08-28-2008 04:20 PM

don’t even get me started…. politicians … ha!...

why can’t we all be friends, and do whats best for the people?

it’s a dog eat dog world out there in D.C….

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#4 posted 08-28-2008 04:26 PM

It is amazing how our politicians throw away enough money before breakfast to set up any of us (or maybe all of us) Lumberjock’s up for life.

I get a little testy, though, when I see this bit about the Katrina relief act. It’s a total misrepresentation of facts. That $250 billion (a pie-in-the-sky number nobody ever expected to materialize in full) was not for New Orleans, but for the entire area affected by the storm. Over 850,000 homes were destroyed or rendered inhabitable by Katrina. Millions of people were directly affected. And that money was never intended to be split up among people to rebuild homes anyway, but covered the full spectrum of destroyed and damaged infrastructure, including public schools and hospitals. People around the country look at TV news, and all natural disasters tend to look alike on the small screen. But the scope of Katrina was something totally unprecedented in U.S. history.

Yes, I know….it’s stupid to rebuild a city that lies partially below sea level in a hurricane-prone area. Hmmmm… lets see what people have to say when the inevitable “big one” earthquake hits Los Angeles.

Enough ranting for now. :-)

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 08-28-2008 06:29 PM

I’ll have to check out that video grumpycarp.

I as well as many others I’m sure agree with you pashley that the tax issue is just insane now in this country.

You also said most of it goes to Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, or other entitlement programs. What burns my ass is that most of the money that is meant to help fellow Americans that legitimately need the help but can’t get it because it’s going to illegals.

You hit the nail on the head purplev with “why can’t we all be friends and do what’s best for the people”

Charlie I saw something awhile back about foods, blankets, pots, pans, clothes and other donations that were donated for victims of Katrina that were about to be thrown away because no one claimed them or they wouldn’t be delivered or some dumb reason. There was another story showing all the new campers at a storage area just sitting there and not delivered to the people who needed them.

This is a great country with some of the most intelligent people in the world, it’s just a shame all the dumb asses are in charge of running it.

Anyway, the taxes are nuts and I thought the comparatives of what a billion is was cool.

-- Kirk H. --

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#6 posted 08-28-2008 07:27 PM

Torches and pitch forks.

If we hung a few politicians that would get them thinking and maybe they would work for us instead of for themselves.

If you didn’t work for it you probably don’t deserve it.

-- "so much to learn and so little time"..

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#7 posted 08-28-2008 11:46 PM

Since it looks like this is turning into a beat up fest against politicians I’ll toss in this old quote:

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
English humorist & science fiction novelist (1952 – 2001)

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#8 posted 09-29-2008 09:01 PM

You think YOU got problems kj – I’m English and a billion is, literally, 1000 times worse for us!

“A billion seconds ago it was 1959” – I get that as around 31709 years

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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#9 posted 09-29-2008 10:33 PM

I sure hope you guys don’t use the same math when measuring for projects…..

60seconds x 60minutes x 24hours = 86,400 seconds per day

1,000,000,000 / 86400 = 11,574 days.

11,574/365 = 31.7 years (not counting leap years)

2008 – 32 = 1976.

I too get a little testy about some of these comments: More entitlements because of abortion? That’s a stretch. Let’s stick to woodworking. Chain e-mails are about as useful as a warped jointer bed.

-- GSY from N. Idaho

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#10 posted 10-01-2008 08:48 PM

I wondered why everything came out so big!
Seriously – in the UK, outside financial circles, a billion is a million million, not a thousand million.

“separated by a common language”

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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