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11-09-2012 11:28 PM

Summary. Sears began carrying a new type of wrench that was invented, patented, and manufactured in the US.
Sales took off. So Sears got the bright idea to knock-off the design and have it made in China.
I don’t even need this tool, but I’m tempted to buy one of the genuine tools, just to spite Sears and help the little guy with his lawsuit.
Oh, and Bain Capital is looking to buy the new Sears supplier of the knock-offr. Just sayin for the sake of irony.

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#1 posted 11-10-2012 01:05 AM

The late, great Paul Harvey reported many years ago the guy that invented the windshield wiper delay finally settled for a pittance with the auto makers to stole it and installed it for decades. When asked why he settled for practically nothing after fighting for decades, he said he’d die before it was over! ;-(

All the countries that are doing well have reasonable trade policies in place. A reversal of copro greed is on the horizon ;-)

Thanks for the tip on Sears. I was just there today. I’ll watch their China imports a bit closer!

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 11-10-2012 01:34 AM

Jim. Lighten up amigo. Life is too short.
Besides, I voted for Romney…... While pinching my nose.

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#3 posted 11-10-2012 02:02 AM

Jim- I’ve been finding that US manufacturing has been increasing for the last couple years. I just finished building myself a sweet set of bicycles wheels. The hubs are manufactured by Chris King, a US company that has always and only been US. The spokes and nipples are Wheelsmith, a company that bought back the tooling to move production to the US and the rims are made by Velocity. Mine are from Australia however the company has just this year moved their production facilities to the US and just this month has begun production of US made rims. This on a frame that says handmade in the USA.
At the local dollar store I was pleasantly surprised to find their 10.00 garbage can was US made, took that home a couple months ago. In the last year my daughter received a cozy coupe, a play kitchen and a play tool set, all had a big american flag on the box and proudly proclaimed US manufacture. Stuff is coming back in droves and the jobs with them if you look.
For me this is tough to deal with since I have always shopped sears’ tool isle for anything craftsman that said US made but didn’t realize they were pulling crap like this. Time to see who else makes US made tools and I’ll be picking up my complete set of US made channellocks elsewhere.

-- A posse ad esse

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#4 posted 11-10-2012 02:08 AM

Just think: if Romney had been elected, he’d have gone and busted some heads at Sears and gotten this guy some justice!

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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#5 posted 11-10-2012 02:22 AM

I am wondering if you are kidding….

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#6 posted 11-10-2012 11:33 AM

“Bain Capital”... why am I not surprised.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#7 posted 11-11-2012 09:32 AM

So this is really just a political thread in disguise. Vote for Romney while complaining about American companies outsourcing to China, the irony is palpable.

-- Rick M,

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#8 posted 11-11-2012 10:00 AM

I just read it and talk about sticking it to someone….... Sure changes my opinion on Sears…...

Derosa, your 100% correct. If everyone of us would just take the time to research when we are in the market for a new tool, clothes, appliance, ect ect and buy when ever possible if would make a impact….....

Just because it is made here does not mean it is the best that I know but you be surprised on what is actually made here and we should try to support those companys…. Providing they have a good product of course.

-- What we do in life will Echo through Eternity........

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#9 posted 11-11-2012 01:20 PM

Just because there is a us flag on the box doesn’t mean the product is made in america. It could mean that the box was printed in america.

-- In the end, when your life flashes before your eyes, will you like what you see?

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#10 posted 11-11-2012 01:28 PM

Watch for items at the dollar store that have any sort of Made in USA or UL Listed sticker on them. Chinese companies aren’t past faking UL approval and even made in USA sticers. Last year I saw a piece on Chrstmas lights that had fake UL approved stickers on them.

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#11 posted 11-11-2012 07:29 PM

While I can only do a very small part by not shopping at Sears, there’s just not enough will power or momentum among the broader population to do the same. So in the end it makes very little difference except for a small sense of satisfaction knowing that I’ve done the right thing.

Corporate thugs have counted on this general apathy for a very long time and profited obscenely as a result. But for some odd reason (sarcasm), people still refuse to make the connection between long-term trends of manufacturing losses, high unemployment, lower wages, and the rise of corporate raiders that define the likes of Bain Capital et al.

Here’s the best illustration that I’ve seen of this willful disconnect (thank you, Wilburpan!) –

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#12 posted 11-11-2012 08:06 PM

American wages have been declining since 1970, and American’s buying power has followed that same trend. THAT is not apathy, just simple loss of buying power.

This whole “buy American” mentality is misguided. Read up on Deming and how his QC through employee empowerment changed Japan junk into high tech and how this same methodology is changing Asia, and particularly China manufacturing. The junk that has been coming out of China is quickly being replaced with higher and higher quality product, just as it happened in Japan. China built its infrastructure (factories) and employed thousands making junk, but those employees HAD A JOB. As the factories upgrade to better technology, China still has an employed workforce ready and willing to upgrade as well. Pay attention folks, it won’t be that many more years until when China will be king of technology AND manufacturing expertise. An example… try to buy a flatscreen “anything” that is not made in China.

American corporations will have nothing to do with empowering employees (Deming) and thus America has lost the one thing that originally made us great.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#13 posted 11-11-2012 09:01 PM

This whole “buy American” mentality is misguided????

A man invents and patents a tool. Kmart, excuse me Sears has so large a volume of sales on the tool that they abandon the patent owner and try to push a china knock-off in it’s place. Sears, Bain Capital and Apex tools do not care about anything but profits so I for one will let the chinese buy there own stuff. If I buy from an American owned company who builds with American labor perhaps my fellow Americans will have a job.

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#14 posted 11-11-2012 09:15 PM

American corporations will have nothing to do with empowering employees (Deming) and thus America has lost the one thing that originally made us great.

Unlike the benevolent empolyers in China…

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#15 posted 11-12-2012 12:43 AM

There is something to what Mike is saying. All too often American companies will complain about the lack of skilled labor while not wanting to educate their employees. Look at how many jobs are available in the US vs. skilled labor to fill them. We have a surplus of jobs and a surplus of unemployed but we seem to lack companies that are willing to train the unskilled.

-- A posse ad esse

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