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07-25-2012 04:16 AM |
Topic tags/keywords: dovetail dovetails dove tail porter cable porter cable rockler router jig 4210 4212 4216 half blind half-blind halfblind I have long wanted to get deeper dovetails and a 14 degree angle with my PC 4210 jig. The bit that comes in the kit is 7 degrees, with a 3/8” depth of cut. The standard dovetails have such a shallow angle they almost look like box joints. -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
14 replies so far
#1 posted 07-25-2012 04:33 AM |
Thanks for the update. :) -- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet. |
#2 posted 07-25-2012 12:49 PM |
I like the look. Did you use the standard bushing? 3/4” Front and 1/2” sides? -- Jim Maher, Illinois |
#3 posted 07-25-2012 04:31 PM |
Jim, -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
#4 posted 07-25-2012 04:34 PM |
Now this is what Jocks is all about. Thanks for the tip. |
#5 posted 07-25-2012 04:53 PM |
This is really good to know, as I put mine on the shelf for the reason you mentioned. Thanks! -- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog |
#6 posted 07-25-2012 07:24 PM |
Thanks, Willie. Better looking tails, and still a single pass, huh? I’m gonna have to give these a try. The 1/2” shank version (Item # 91089) is only $17.99 at Rockler. Very cool! -- Jim Maher, Illinois |
#7 posted 01-15-2013 08:47 PM |
I just completed 12 drawers using the 14 degree bit, and was really impressed with the results. I am using 3/4” oak for the fronts, and 3/4” poplar for the sides. I can’t believe how much stronger these joints feel with the bigger dovetails. The setup is so easy on the Porter Cable 4210 / 4212 jig. -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
#8 posted 01-23-2013 12:01 AM |
This is Super! |
#9 posted 03-12-2013 08:08 PM |
Thanks for the information nice to know.So you can use the 7 or the 14 degree bits with the same template? |
#10 posted 03-13-2013 12:37 AM |
Willie, these are very nice looking DTs. I can hardly wait to see the finished product. -- Art |
#11 posted 03-13-2013 06:45 AM |
Paul, Good luck! -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
#12 posted 01-24-2021 04:27 AM |
Which manual? Mine does not mention anything like that. It is good information. For the blind dovetails I tried other bits. The PC one is 17/32 7 degree, which is an odd size. I tried a 1/2” (only 1/32 narrower) one from a set (not sure the angle, but steeper than 7, looks like 30) and it would not work. I could not get shallow enough. I then tried a 9/16” one (1/32” larger), again, not sure the angle (still larger than 7), and this one is fine. I will try and get the angle. It would be good to keep track of which bits work. 5/8” 14 degree looked good, am ordering a bit now. The 5/8 depth you used would make it tricky for rabbited blinds though, on a 1 inch face (3/4” thick) that would only leave a 1/8” rabbit. Silly rabbit, just make a separate face! A quick question, how do you get the contrast? It appears you are using different woods, but do you stain them separately before assembly? I am just a beginner at woodworking. TIA. |
#13 posted 01-24-2021 04:37 AM |
Something in the advanced manual gave me the idea to use a different bit. I usually stain the drawer fronts prior to assembly for a nice contrast. Good luck with it!
-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
#14 posted 01-25-2021 06:50 PM |
OK, some more info. I was using a 5/8” bit, looks like 15 degree, from a cheap set I had for a while. It seems to work fine. I was working with plywood, so some chipping, but the dovetails look good and solid (or as good and solid as it gets with plywood). Slight depth issue, a few thousandths. The depth was just under 5/16”. It was snug, requiring a bit of tapping, but not a lot. If anyone has other bits they tried that work, it would be great to know. |
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