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Forum topic by santa007007 posted 07-11-2012 09:02 PM 9653 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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santa007007

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07-11-2012 09:02 PM

Hi -

About 6 years ago, I bought the full sawtrain set from Jointech. A couple of major disasters then hit the family, and the stuff’s still sitting in boxes in the basement.

I’ve got some time in the next few weeks to start cleaning up my shop. I badly need a new fence for my table saw. My question:

Given that Jointech is now a dead company: if it were you, would you install the sawtrain/fence knowing that there’s no support, or would you just call it a loss and get another fence.

Thanks.


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#1 posted 07-11-2012 09:10 PM

Dang!!! I’d never chuck the thing without trying it. If you don’t use it, you’ll end up buying another. Wait until you check it out.

-- Gary, DeKalb Texas only 4 miles from the mill

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#2 posted 07-11-2012 09:16 PM

At the very least, give it a try.

-- Mike - In Fort McMurray Alberta

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#3 posted 07-11-2012 09:16 PM

I am in the same boat with you. I have the JointTech Cabinet Makers edition of the router table fence and clincher. I am now in the process of setting it up for the first time. I bought it back in ‘98 or ‘99 and for the same reasons have just now opened the box. From everything I can determine, these folks went out of business because of bad business choices/practices and not a poor product. I have had more than a few replies to my queries about the quality of the fence telling me that it is superior to Incra….and that is saying a lot to me. I fully intend to set mine up and use it as long as it is serviceable. If you want to just scrap yours, I will pay the shipping and send you my address :-)

Dan

-- RTex, Wood Wranglin' Cowboy

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santa007007

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#4 posted 07-11-2012 09:34 PM

Thanks all. I’ll give it a go!

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ILikeFlyin

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#5 posted 07-25-2012 12:08 AM

I bought a Jointech set up about 7-8 years ago. I stopped woodworking about 3-4 years ago with the intention of getting back into it when I had more time. I just bought a new table saw and am kinda bummed that Jointech is gone. It was a good tool.

If you decide to “unload” yours, I might be willing to buy it for spare parts. Just in case…

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santa007007

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#6 posted 08-01-2012 10:58 PM

Well, the basement is about 1/2 cleaned out. Hopefully I can try setting it up in a month or so.

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WudOwl

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#7 posted 09-29-2014 06:20 PM

Am looking for 8 ft JOintech Saw Train Rails. And the larger table for the Right end.

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Howardh

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#8 posted 09-30-2014 03:36 AM

I had met the owner Ernie Saldana and his sister who also worked there many times over the years. Every time I came to San Antonio on business, I’d stop by. I had a lot of their products: the sawtrain, the router table set up (still use that), the miter sled, the digital router lift and other odds and ends. There was never a problem with the product. The original owner was an Incra engineer I believe but when he died about 6 or 7 years ago, Ernie bought the company and simply didn’t have the business skills to keep it going, especially during the recession in 2008. He tried to sell it to someone with the hope of keeping it going but the deal fell through. I had left my router lift there for repair and it took me 9 months to get it back. I had to personally show up at his warehouse to get it. By then, he was working by himself and the end was very close. Now I’m close to selling the router table set up to get a shaper and that will be end of my Jointech experience.

-- If you learn from your mistakes I must be a genius.

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#9 posted 09-30-2014 06:59 AM

I have the Rigid TS3650. Mine’s about 2 years old now and I’m pretty happy with it, though in my dream shop, it will be replaced with a SawStop cabinet saw. The only knock I’ve got on the TS3650 is the arbor they shipped with mine has a groove cut into the threads just past the 1/8” point, which is precisely where your first chipper sits if you use a dado head. That means that th first chipper cut will be “high” (deeper) than the rest of the cut. One of my applications is to use the Freud Box-Joint two-blade system, so to handle this problem I bought two CMT stabilizers to space my blades out 1/4”, just past this groove, but of course that means I can’t use a 3/4” stack anymore since the arbor isn’t long enough to accommodate the spacers plus 3/4” of dado—but it works fine for my box-joint blades. I’ve heard that Rigid has sent new arbors to some people who complained. I usually use a router to cut dados for shelving, so I mostly just live with (or use a shoulder plane on) the non-uniform bottom if I cut them on the TS. All that said, I’ve got no other complaints about this saw. Woodline and a few other places sell ZC inserts for this saw made from HDPE if you don’t want to make them yourself.

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#10 posted 09-30-2014 12:45 PM

I too would try it out before getting rid of it. It looks like a neat design and well built too.

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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#11 posted 07-29-2018 05:50 AM

We have a jet table saw (Jtas 10XL special edition) which has jointech fences / clincher fence machine, saw train, smart fence plus…and many extras – mobile base, extension, rails, Xacta fence etc… We are looking to selling everything and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with pricing? I see jointech is out of business so I can’t find prices. I have everything listed for $2500 – had an offer for $2000 for Saw only but he wanted what was on the saw which was the mobile base extensions some fence … we turned it down – want someone to have everything for $2500. Now have offer for $2k for everything. I’d like to tell him what these things are worth … My research shows I’m including over $1000 worth of stuff with the saw which only would cost $2700 new. It’s in excellent shape. Any info helps – thanks I have pics of everything, just not on this computer right now.

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#12 posted 09-06-2018 06:39 PM

I’m new to the site and saw these posts on JointTech. I sure could use some advice on setting up the fence with my old table saw. I had it set up about ten years ago and moved. Just getting back to setting up shop. Any help is appreciated. I can’t seem to get the side rails to align properly with the surface of the table saw body.

-- "Always remember, you're unique. Just like everyone else"

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#13 posted 01-28-2019 04:54 PM

I love my sawtrain. Been using it for years. It’s more precise than anything I’ve ever used.

-- Andrew

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#14 posted 01-28-2019 05:01 PM



I am in the same boat with you. I have the JointTech Cabinet Makers edition of the router table fence and clincher. I am now in the process of setting it up for the first time. I bought it back in 98 or 99 and for the same reasons have just now opened the box. From everything I can determine, these folks went out of business because of bad business choices/practices and not a poor product. I have had more than a few replies to my queries about the quality of the fence telling me that it is superior to Incra….and that is saying a lot to me. I fully intend to set mine up and use it as long as it is serviceable. If you want to just scrap yours, I will pay the shipping and send you my address :-)

Dan

- RTex


ive got this same fence and clincher very well made,i didnt know they went out of business,hopefully i wont need parts down the road.

-- sawdust the bigger the pile the bigger my smile-larry,so cal.

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WudOwl

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#15 posted 01-28-2019 11:23 PM

It’s my understanding that the Owner (who created/designed the screwed based fence, etc) passed away and his kids declined to keep the business running.

Because the “Clincher” is screwed based, vs the Incra which is tooth based, it will always be more accurate. Jointech used to say it was accurate to 1 thousandth of an inch. To me it’s infinitely accurate due to its use of the screw – you can turn the screw a very little bit. Plus it is repeatable, ie, you can come back later after you ruined 1 table leg and make another to the exact same dimensions.

I spent a couple of years looking for a set of 8 ft rails to replace my smaller rails, and I intend to keep my Jointech Sawtrain w/ Router fence, ie the Cabinet Makers edition, for as long as I keep the saw.
If you decide you want to sell it please contact me.

Greg – the WoodOwl

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