It just seems that this site has become a place for certain people to advertise there own sites. I don't mind the occasional plug but I am so tired of hearing/seeing the same person CONSTANTLY plugging his own site over & over. If you want to have a contest and get more traffic to your site, do it there. I have significantly reduced my time on this site since certain people have began using it as a self promoting, hey look at me, site. Put your site on your signature and leave it at that. Find another way to promote your site other than Shoving it in peoples faces every time we go on the site. This is just my opinion.
agreed. I have no problems with someone linking to their site inexplicitely by putting it in the signature - OR - I'm also ok with people linking to their site at the end of their post - given that their post had context and at the end its something like "thanks for reading, for more articles like this one please visit www.dadada. but I do not like when someone just posts a 1 liner stating "if you want to read my context, go check out my site…" 100% of the times I do not check that site - would rather stay on LJ and read something else.
Totally Agree with: "Put your site on your signature and leave it at that. Find another way to promote your site other than Shoving it in peoples faces every time we go on the site."
I don't mind true pros pushing their own site but what I really hate is pushing other personal sites that have little or nothing to do with woodworking. True pros always have something to offer us mere mortals.
I won't mention any names but typically links left on LJ go to this site before going to the actual information and all this really does is increase the traffic on the second site for NO GOOD reason.
And, spammers should be flogged or at least removed from LJ within milliseconds of their post!
I agree. I try very hard not to mention my site, or if I mention what I build, I only do in reference to a tool or practice. My site is in my signature, and in reality, I don't think I would ever sell anything made of wood to a bunch of woodworkers!
Personally, what I've learned here has been way, way more important than any advertising.
I remember those posts last week.
Well said Robert.
ShipWreck: maybe your right. Maybe I am a bit worked up for no reason about this. Most of the time I'm a calm person, so give me one thing to be worked up about. We all need one. I just feel there has been some abuse of the system that I don't agree with and it has to be said on my part. I have watched and gone to most of the sites that have videos and/or has it in their signature to learn more our watch things that are of interest HOWEVER some people are abusing this opportunity and are becoming a nuisance.
Unfortunately, it's hard to pick out who is honestly just putting a link in their post because they, like Tennessee, want to learn, share, and network with other woodworkers and who is doing it because they are a spammer. My signature features my URL, but I have never spoken of it outside of that. Posts like Jonathon was talking about are often pure spam.
How often does everyone hit the flag button? You can use that to have a post reviewed, but I've never used it. Are the moderators good about removing stuff like that? If so, lets get on it!
I guess we all have things that bother us on Ljs ,as far as this subject goes I guess it is comparable with folks who are upset about folks posting political topics, I don't have an interest in those post but the people posting them put them in the non woodworking forum as they should be, so in my opinion no harm no foul, those who want to check it out can and those who have no interest can ignore it. There are on average 20-30 new spammers every day they remain on the site ,I guess it's because it's not a big issue to Martin . Ljs allows lot of things that other forums don't and that's one of the reasons some folks leave the other sites and come here. I have only one issue and that's with folks that just post links to there blogs with out ever posting it here. As far as posting links to your web site it's no big deal to me,since I do it myself. I don't consider that jamming it down anyone's throat. I don't think we can assume because someones posting positive things under projects that their trying to advertise .All said and done "don't sweat the small stuff and everything is the small stuff"
I enjoy this site and want to participate. I also have my own blog and would like to see some visitors. My blog is about all sorts of tools and projects, not just woodworking. If I post a comment on a project, it is because I liked what they made. A spammer would comment on almost every project.
An example…
I posted a blog entry that has a picture and a short video. There is also a link to my site with more pictures and information. Someone asked for more pictures of the blade guide assemblies. I went out and took three more pictures and uploaded them to this site. I got maybe 30 visitors to my site the day I posted this blog entry.
I honestly have no clue… I tend to ignore stuff that bothers me. Now if someone starts spamming my threads, I will surely get annoyed and see what can be done about it…
LumberJocks is a community. Every community is made up of individuals, each of whom have their own quirks and faults. Every individual has some quirk or habit that irritates someone else.
That is really the basis of the comments here. If you feel someone is abusing the privelege of being a part of this community or posting something that is against the rules of the forum, use the "Flag" option to the left of the post. That is why that feature is there.
The moderators of a board this size cannot effectively monitor every individual post. The "Flag" feature, when used by the community, highlights potential issues to the forum moderators. Basically, the "Flag" is a means of the community policing itself.
Feel free to FLAG my post and return to your gripefest.
I try to ignore all the posts that have to do with bitching and whining about what people think other people should do/not do on this site, but alas here I am. If the owner of this site didn't like it I'm sure they would put a stop to it. If you don't like it, ignore it! Ultimately, YOU control what you look at on the interweb.
Cabmaker: I often wonder the same thing but if your implying that this is causing me stress you are mistaken. This was just an open statement of something that I observed. I also don't like people who take up two parking spaces or people who drive 10mph under the speed limit in the fast lane but this is not a traffic site is a woodworking site, so I didn't vent about that (till now )
Johnathan: Dont know if you were stressed are not. Maybe others were, or not. Dont know for sure. What I do know is that there is a lot more to life than any seemingly undisaplened behavior on a internet forum. Problem with any posting of this nature is that each responding post begs the next post, to no avail. Origional intentions are lost quickly.
Im just assuming that your orig. post may have been about the stumpy thing. Yeah I noticed too, but it had absolutly no effect on me one way or the other. And even if he or others are plugging their own site, well I wish them the best. PS Dont let anyone convince you that you dont live in the greatest country in the world ! Enjoy JB
If I learn something from someone's woodworking website I don't mind. I don't open off topic posts because they are, well, off topic, and just political rants. I don't have time for pi$$ing matches.
Why not just flag the person? It's right under their avatar
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<<< Over there somewhere it says "Flag"
I'm usually for calling people out. Being vague may be diplomatic and all, but this is the internet. Name people directly or confront them directly in a PM. Who cares? It's not like someone is going to kill someone else because of an internet dispute… oh wait, that's happened before. Disregard that advice or use at your own risk.
Also, check out my site for my advice on this and other topics.
Sorry some of you don't like me mentioning my contest. I do two a year, at my own expense, and a lot of us have a ton of fun. I don't make a dime off it, I pay for the prizes from my own pocket, but I do promote it here because… well, how else would people know about it?
I have made almost 4,000 posts on LJ's in less than two years. The vast majority have been advice and encouragement for my fellow woodworkers. If some of you dislike the fact that I also, at the end of some of those comments, mention the FREE woodworking show I produce (again, at great personal expense), I don't know what to say about it. I am not trying to step on any toes, I am only doing what I love. And the only way to share what you love is to tell people about it.
I personally read a great deal of the posts on LJ's, and I can tell you that I never get sidetracked when I see someone promoting their woodworking blog or whatever in their comments. Yes, I can see how it would be irritating if all they did was say "hey come to my site" and offer nothing to the community. But I offer a LOT to this community. It has never been about promoting myself or my podcast. And anyone who says otherwise is not aware of the real facts.
You Go "Stump"! For elite woodworking folks should hang out at Finewoodworking.com where you pay for the content. For fun, down to earth woodworking with a good portion of chuckles along the way hang out here at Lumberjocks. There is much to learn here. I myself HATE all the political infighting and posts here on a woodworking site and rather than bitch I just don't read them. It's really pretty easy
Jonathan- I invited some of those who had posted jigs in the last couple of weeks to enter the contest. I did not invite every jig post during that period to do so, only those I thought would do well in the contest. Yes, that did cause those posts to rise in the "pulse" list, so several of them would be shown as having new activity in a row. But I couldn't help that. I got several emails from those I invited thanking me for inviting them to enter. If my comments really obstructed your abillity to enjoy the jig posts, I am very sorry. I actually do a lot to promote this site, and I would never want anyone to be put off by anything I say or do.
Knothead- I am not a fan of the political posts either. But, like you, I have no problem avoiding them. If someone wants to spend their time arguing about politics, good for them. It means they are here, looking at ads and that translates into money for Lumberjocks, which means they can keep this community alive.
Robert you need to get drawes out of that wad it in.i hope they dont take that advise i like the ads r what ever u call it,there are ad all over here,how do you think they keep a site like this running,some of it was donations at first,they had enough foresight to keep it up and running and they were advertising their wares of this craft .i dont want to be the one to let you this is a major world wide woodworking site there are masters on here from countrys all over the world here on this site advertising.getting plug well i want thak you guys keep getting plugs let me see , Steve, WOOD WRKER MERE ,MORTAL THANKS MAN .heres a plug.jim STUMPY NUBS SOMETHING ?heres you a plug, Marc THE WOOD WHISPER ,HERES A PLUG FOR U,WILLIAM NU WOOD WORKS.a plug for thanks . CHARLES NEIL THANK buddy,Todd A. Clippinger thanks DONT STOP GETTING PLUS,BritBoxmakerplease dont stop ,Bricofleur here a plug thanks for gettong plug ,Asa Christiana FINE WOOD WORKING MAG. this is just a few there are 100s of them here get plugs ,and im earning from them and you want to know something they are learning from each other at getting plugs HAY YOU PLUGERS I KNOW YOU AINT GETTING RICH HERE BUT THANK YOU
Doss: "Why not just flag the person? It's right under their avatar"
You're not acually "Flagging The Person" You're Flagging the Comment. I guess that might or not be Spam, highly unlikely.
Once Again …... You CAN'T FLAG Anyone's Profile on their Home Page. There is NO FLAG there to do so.
Myself and a couple of others on here go to "New Members" or whatever it's called (just follow "Jocks" in the heading at the top) and SLAM all the VERY OBVIUOS Spammers with a "Straight To The Point" Message. We can't Flag them and they ALWAYS stay on here. There is ALWAYS at least 4/5/6 of them Per Page.
Why they are left on here should be pretty obvious i.e. "Member Count".
I clicked on your Site Link above which took me to your Home Page with Your Web Site shown there. I should have stopped at that point. CLICKED ON and got this:
MAYBE you don't even know it's Happening. How well do you know your "Server?" THAT'S where the Problem is.
I also ran an IP Identifier on Your Site and then them. They (as shown in the Red Box above) are KNOWN as a Malicous Source. In this case the Infection is a "URL:Mal"
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