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05-26-2022 08:45 AM |
Topic tags/keywords: question joining oak Hi I’m renting a cabin, where they have a beautiful table, in a design I’m wondering about using the design from when making a table on my own But they have also made cut, maybe 2cm deep, below the table. Is there anyone that may share some insight/knowledge on this? -- It’s good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end. - Ursula K. LeGuin |
13 replies so far
#1 posted 05-26-2022 11:11 AM |
Could be to relieve tension in the slab to keep it flat. |
#2 posted 05-26-2022 11:13 AM |
Only time I’ve seen similar is on the old wood top Delta machinery stands, which had the underside of the 2x material scored in a similar way. They claim it was to improve stability of the wood and prevent twisting/warping. Got no idea if it works or not, but I do have an old Delta bench from around the 40’s and the top is still nice and flat ;) Cheers, -- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable |
#3 posted 05-26-2022 12:29 PM |
If they used angle iron or channel, which provides extra stiffness compared to flat bar, I think that I have seen this done primarily so that the metal does not protrude below the bottom surface of the table. I doubt that it provides any structural advantage over having the angle or channel hang below the the table. -- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way. |
#4 posted 05-26-2022 01:36 PM |
The metal is a U-profile, bit the cuts I’m talking about are perpendicular to the iron U-profile. It’s interesting as, based on the rest of the construction, those who buildt this table knew what they we’re doing, so I’ll expect they had something they beleived had a purpose. -- It’s good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end. - Ursula K. LeGuin |
#5 posted 05-26-2022 01:52 PM |
Just from the photos I’m making a big guess. I see a lot of stuff going on that doesn’t seem to pertain to an ordinary table top; cross pieces, brackets, etc. I also see the darker appearing panel in the center of the top. I think the table is made with removable stowable extensions and the grooving and metal pieces are a part of that design. I think if you were making a table with a similar look, but without all of those extras, none of what you see on the underside would apply. Simple edge joining with apron and legs is all you would need. |
#6 posted 05-26-2022 02:13 PM |
this is most likely the reason for the cuts. It’s a way to help get the slab flatter without having to lose too much thickness. |
#7 posted 05-26-2022 03:50 PM |
Yeah i am guessing it was cupped, can probably tell by looking at the endgrain direction of the glue up. And they were allowing a relief for when they clamped it down. I have seen old Japanese master craftsman do this on beams, to give control of where the cracks go, kind of like expansion joints in concrete. |
#8 posted 05-26-2022 04:29 PM |
Ah, I see. I thought those were just joints between the boards. I agree that those are probably relief cuts to help flatten the panel. I suppose it could have been preventative to prevent future warping but they are not normally necessary if the panel is pretty flat and the proper moisture content to start with. -- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way. |
#9 posted 05-26-2022 07:33 PM |
One trick for a tight seam is to slightly undercut or bevel the edges slightly. This allows the wood to expand into the gap with minimal effect on the top. Each board is attached with a single screw, allowing it to move either side. To prevent buckling, the edges are undercut to reduce the contact area, and proportionately, the buckling forces. PS. If you edit and resave your pictures, they’ll come out right side up when uploaded here. -- The hump with the stump and the pump! |
#10 posted 05-26-2022 10:16 PM |
Too me all the metal and relief cuts on the underside of a table shows a lack of confidence of the craftsman. -- Aj |
#11 posted 05-27-2022 10:15 AM |
Hmm, that was actually a perspective on the topic I did not have myself. Reusing the material of this table will probably not be very easy – I agree on that. Breadboard ends is the old timers way to go, I do however not like the look of those and for myself I would prefer a metal support to ensure that the table stays resonnable straight. In this case it is obvious a selected method of building the table, as it is done on both main table plates as well as both inlay plates. -- It’s good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end. - Ursula K. LeGuin |
#12 posted 05-31-2022 01:52 PM |
This would be my guess. But if you look at the ends of the boards just below the metal caul in the second picture, the relief cuts end and the boards are tightly joined, probably to make it look better on the ends. -- Tony, SW Chicago Suburbs |
#13 posted 05-31-2022 01:59 PM |
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