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05-24-2022 04:19 AM

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Here are 2 Sargent planes, No. 4 and No. 5 that I found at an estate sale and am in the process of cleaning and tuning. From the logo on the lever caps, I think these are both Type 7 (1950’s and 1960’s). I can’t find anything specific on the Sargent planes of this era, and I’m curious about the tote and knob – they are some king of plastic material on both planes. They are black, molded, rather heavy weight, and seem very rugged. I’m wondering if these might be bakelite. However my impression of bakelite is that it’s rather brittle, and these look and feel almost more like very hard rubber. Anyone know more about these handles?

BTW, still working on sharpening the irons, so don’t know yet how good these will be as users.

-- Jim, IL


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#1 posted 05-24-2022 04:45 AM

There was a form of Hard Rubber known Gutta Percha…that was used for plane handles, amongst other uses….They would also Add in a grip texture and even a logo…such as a Diamond…for Diamond Edge brand planes….at least on the sides of the rear handles…

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#2 posted 05-24-2022 09:25 PM

Once they’re tuned, they make pretty good users.

Here the information on Sargent planes
https://amzn.to/2CMJjlh

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#3 posted 05-26-2022 03:46 AM

Ok, the irons have been sharpened, so here are the money shots:

Wasn’t sure about adjusting the frog, as the lower face of the frog does not extend down to the mouth of the base.
Seems to work ok even though the iron is not supported at the lower end, unless the frog is set far enough back so that the lower end of the iron rests against the base. Doing that seems to leave the mouth open rather wide.

-- Jim, IL

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#4 posted 05-26-2022 10:44 AM

Nice job

Take a look at this
https://www.timetestedtools.net/2018/03/03/is-this-frog-adjustable/

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#5 posted 05-26-2022 04:20 PM

Whoops wrong thread.

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#6 posted 05-27-2022 02:34 AM

Thanks Don for the link to the tips about frog adjustment.
It answered some of my questions.

I still wonder if anyone knows what kind of material is used for that knob and tote…

-- Jim, IL

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#7 posted 05-27-2022 03:38 AM

Yes, I do….Diamond Edge planes were also sold with that type of handle….Gutta Percha was a hard, moldable Polymer….similar to Natural Rubber…but not quite.

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#8 posted 05-27-2022 04:20 AM

Ah ha!
I just located a Wikipedia page for gutta percha, most interesting.
I knew these totes/knobs were not merely plastic.
Thanks!

-- Jim, IL

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