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Forum topic by Karda posted 05-20-2022 03:57 PM 502 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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#1 posted 05-20-2022 04:15 PM

It probably will work just fine. Pretty simple jig.

Personally I just dropped an extra 25 and got the real deal. Maybe I flushed money down the drain but I find it much more frustrating and costly having to fix something, modify something, have to rebuy a product, or always fidget with a tool to use it.

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#2 posted 05-20-2022 04:16 PM

I can’t afford 70 dollars for a new one

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#3 posted 05-20-2022 04:23 PM

I don’t know where I saw the post, Here or probably on a Facebook woodturning site. But It seems the bolt was short. Or something like that.
That post did mention a need to modify. But I just can’t be sure of the details now.
I have been seeing the ads for it, But I have an original Oneway set up. So not needing to replace my set up. I read it, and didn’t pay it enough attention to remember all the details.
But I can’t help to think Chinese nock off junk. Maybe I am wrong, but I will stick to the original.

-- John

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#4 posted 05-20-2022 04:52 PM

I think I will stick with what I know. From what I have seen the advantage of tne vari grind is changing and I don’t do that

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#5 posted 05-20-2022 04:57 PM

This appears to just be the attachment and does not include the base. Go to the Vevor web site and check out all their tools. The price seems to be the same as on ebay. Ii appeas with the base it is in the $70+ price range.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#6 posted 05-20-2022 04:59 PM

I have the bases and the basket

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#7 posted 05-20-2022 06:21 PM

I do like to be frugal myself. I have purchased knock-offs or similar of the real deals of different tools in the past. Thinking (I can upgrade later) it’ll save me some cash for now. Only be out a small amount if it didn’t perform the way I expected. Only been disappointed a couple times. Usually the items are made of cheaper materials and might need a modification, like mentioned above. Some of the inexpensive tool knock-offs I have worked out fine.

Price seems good for what you get. Seller has a 96.9% favorable feedback, which is good. Take a good look at it and compare the differences of the tightening method to lock in the turning tool, before purchase.

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#8 posted 05-20-2022 08:06 PM

ok

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#9 posted 05-20-2022 09:00 PM

One thing that appears to be different is the bolt head that locks the gouge into the jig. The Wolverine has a rubber pad there and it may also have a socket that prevents the head from turning when you tighten it. A spinning head may make it slightly more difficult to prevent the gouge for moving as you lock it down and the pad keeps if from denting or marring the gouge. They appear to have added a piece of sheet metal so maybe that is not a big deal?

But when their pictures do not even show the correct way to use the jig, that makes me wonder if they ever tried it to see if it works. One of the pictures shows a bowl gouge mounted sideways and another bench chisel clamped in sideways and grinding blunt, curved tip. Really?

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#10 posted 05-20-2022 11:07 PM

yea I kinda wondered what a chisel with that grind would be used for

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#11 posted 05-21-2022 10:51 AM

I’m thinking the vari-grind might be available for closer to $52 with a little shopping (try Hartville or Lee Valley). May not market if more affordable, but helps. Also Craft Supplies USA just recently released their version of a sharpening system ( got a email yesterday)—the gouge jig is $40, and the fine print says it’s compatible with Wolverine. They also state that the rest of components are not compatible. Might be worth checking.
Good luck.
earl

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#12 posted 05-21-2022 03:21 PM


One thing that appears to be different is the bolt head that locks the gouge into the jig. The Wolverine has a rubber pad there and it may also have a socket that prevents the head from turning when you tighten it. A spinning head may make it slightly more difficult to prevent the gouge for moving as you lock it down and the pad keeps if from denting or marring the gouge. They appear to have added a piece of sheet metal so maybe that is not a big deal?

But when their pictures do not even show the correct way to use the jig, that makes me wonder if they ever tried it to see if it works. One of the pictures shows a bowl gouge mounted sideways and another bench chisel clamped in sideways and grinding blunt, curved tip. Really?

- Lazyman

Now that’s funny. I had not seen those photos of a chisel mounted in the jig.
The spring steel gasket as they call it was what the original Wolverine jig came with.
I have used one and I like it, but I understand they changed it because as you remove your freshly sharpened tool from the jig, It is very easy to damage the edge. When I bought mine 6 or 7 years ago already, the new style was already the only option.
I am seeing many Wolverine copy’s in the last year. Seems everyone is coming out with a version of it. I have not checked this at all, but it leads me to think if Oneway had a patent on it, that it must have expired.
Kinda shows how good it is that it is being copied now.
A quick search seems that Lee Valley may be the cheapest for the vari grind jig at $51. and they tend to ship free over $30. But I also see it listed at $59/$60 on other sites with free shipping. https://www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/sharpening/jigs-mounts-and-rests/101416-vari-grind-accessory-for-wolverine-basic-sharpening-jig?item=66B0441

I am concerned with the Lee Valley description on the jig, It says it will accept a tool up to 3/4”.
Mine is 1/8” to 5/8”. And Oneway makes another jig that accepts 1/2” to 1-1/8” tools. I have needed that large of a jig yet myself.
https://oneway.ca/products-category/sharpening-grinding-jigs/Vari-Grind

Craft supplies is at $60 and tend to ship free sometimes.
https://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/167/3891/oneway-Vari-Grind-Jig

I can go on and on, lol. I don’t shop Ebay much, but.. There is one here listed at $60 or best offer.
When I have used Ebay, I have made a few offers like this. I think I have about a 80% success rate on offers.
I think I would offer $40 and see what happens. Seller will probably counter offer with $45. and I cost nothing to make the offer.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154996700460?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160811114145%26meid%3Dec7dfdf9d10340249e03c009d72f101d%26pid%3D100667%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281835616027%26itm%3D154996700460%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2334524%26brand%3DOneWay+Manufacturing&_trksid=p2334524.c100667.m2042

-- John

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