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3285jeff

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11-28-2021 02:57 AM

i know im going to get alot of slack for this,,lol,,but i sold my delta 36-705 table saw and it really was a good one,,,and i have always wanted a saw stop so yesterday i went to klingspor and paid about 3400.00 for the professional saw with the 36 inch t glide fence system and the 229.00 mobile base,,,and after i got home i found out that they forget to give me the mobile base,,,,so this morning here i go back to klingspor to get it,,,after i got home and started putting it on the holes would not align to get it on,,so here i go back to klingspor to return it,,,and the saw weighs in at about 400 pounds or better,,,i asked the guy about bringing it back and he said i could,,lol,,now i have the problem of getting it loaded back on the truck,,im sure it is a great saw but im a firm believer that if you start out having that many problems,,,this isnt for you,,,i honestly want the saw,,but if i had that much trouble with just the mobile base,,,lord what is next when you start putting it together,,i believe if i had gotten the contractors saw i might not had this much trouble,,and i was thinking about getting an after market mobile base like the bora,,,,but as much as this beast weighs,,it might just crush it…and i really do hate it,,i wanted the saw because of the safety feature,,,im getting older ,,,and didnt want to take any chances,,but in all honestly,,,,at this moment after having all this trouble,,,i really wish i had that delta 36-725 back,,and i know it isnt no where near the quality of the saw stop,,


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Lazyman

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#1 posted 11-28-2021 03:11 AM

Sounds to me that you just need to vent some frustration so we’re here for you. To show you how much I care, I will trade you my 36-725 for your Saw Stop. I will even deliver and pick up anywhere in the continental US. :-)

Don’t blame the saw for Klingspor’s mistakes. The first problem was just a mistake. When you went back for the base did they give you the wrong one or is there something wrong with the base. Either way, Klingspor should be able to make it right. Annoying I know.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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3285jeff

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#2 posted 11-28-2021 03:40 AM

yes i cannot fault klingspor other than i had to go back to get it,,but in all honestly he was very nice,,,but i was so dissapointed when it would not fit,,im totally disabled and that plus the weight really got to me,,i guess that might be why i feel this way,,and thank you for your understanding

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#3 posted 11-28-2021 03:52 AM

Setup of tools can be so frustrating and discouraging. I had some similar issues when setting up my saw (see this blog https://www.lumberjocks.com/BB1/blog/98826). You will do what feels right for your situation, but maybe taking a day or two to make the final decision would be good?

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#4 posted 11-28-2021 04:50 AM

I’m the same way always looking for the path with least resistance. That’s a lot of money for a 10 inch table saw.
I cannot get past that. I don’t see myself having one I’m poor :(
Good Luck

-- Aj

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#5 posted 11-28-2021 04:55 AM

Reading I’m seeing mostly the mobile base wouldn’t go together. Both the Bora, and the Grizzly will easily carry a 400 pound saw.

The Bora I like is the 4 wheel turning model. I despise those fixed front wheel demons. Anyhow the 4 wheel PM-3550 Super duty is 160 bux.

Grizzly has their very well rated Bear Crawl all swivel is 150 bux, and has a whopping 1200 pound rating

I had a Grizzly base on my PM66, and I know people with Bora bases, and I’ve not heard of any assembly issues.

-- Think safe, be safe

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#6 posted 11-28-2021 05:01 AM



Sounds to me that you just need to vent some frustration so we re here for you. To show you how much I care, I will trade you my 36-725 for your Saw Stop. I will even deliver and pick up anywhere in the continental US. :-)

Don t blame the saw for Klingspor s mistakes. The first problem was just a mistake. When you went back for the base did they give you the wrong one or is there something wrong with the base. Either way, Klingspor should be able to make it right. Annoying I know.

- Lazyman


hold on bud im gonna do the same deal and add another benjamin to the deal ! yeah you heard me right !!!!

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#7 posted 11-28-2021 01:47 PM

Buying machinery isn’t the same as purchasing a tool from Home Depot, there is some assembly required. And there usually are adjustments that need to be made (e.g. – missing bolts, alignment, slight modifications). Even the best brands, such as as Powermatic, Oliver, and your SawStop may require some tweaking.
The only way to eliminate some of that is to purchase it from a retailer who assembles it for you.
I personally didn’t choose a SawStop, but if that’s the saw you want, I would suggest keeping it. The fact that you have to work a little to make the base fit in no way indicates a faulty saw.

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3285jeff

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#8 posted 11-28-2021 02:10 PM

no i agree and im not saying that is a faulty saw,,,im saying that as a rule for me that if you start out having alot of bad luck on something,,,the worst is yet to come,,,and im certainly not rich,,,,3400 dollars for a premium saw is alot of money,,,and your right as far as the tweaking goes,,,but i feel like other than the safety feature,,it should go together with the greatest of ease,,,i would expect the tweaking on a cheaper saw,,,and thats to be expected,,,,but after spending 3400.00 dollars on a saw,,,im retired and live off a pension,,,it took me awhile to save for this saw,,but i was expecting something entirely different on the assembly,,,but i guess as the old adage goes,,,,to each their own,,,

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#9 posted 11-28-2021 02:32 PM

I own the professional saw with the 50” fence. As my saw is stationary, I haven’t dealt with the mobile base, but as others have said, even in well designed and manufactured machinery there’s almost always something you have to finagle with to get right.
Don’t be discouraged! I too fall into that “getting older” category, I can’t overstate the value of having the extra safety net that the SawStop provides. I think if you continue past the mobile base problem you will find that you will be impressed with how well SawStop has organized and thought out the setup instructions….and ultimately you will be exceptionally pleased with your purchase. It ain’t cheap, but overall they did an excellent job of engineering…and for one I feel it was money well spent.

-- Live to putter...putter to live!

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3285jeff

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#10 posted 11-28-2021 02:51 PM

i agree completely with you but unfortunately this saw has left a bad taste in my mouth,,,i think i better take it back so as i wont get stuck with it,,,

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#11 posted 11-28-2021 03:04 PM

Sounds like you should be in the market for a Unisaw or PM66, complete without the included planned obsolescence designed into the stopsaw

-- "Lack of effort will result in failure with amazing predictability" - Me

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hotbyte

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#12 posted 11-28-2021 03:20 PM

Care to expound on this so-called planned obsolescence?


Sounds like you should be in the market for a Unisaw or PM66, complete without the included planned obsolescence designed into the stopsaw

- bigblockyeti


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#13 posted 11-28-2021 04:20 PM

I totally disagree with OP and do not understand. Best I can figure is he wants to take it back because he thinks it has bad karma.

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Lazyman

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#14 posted 11-28-2021 04:31 PM

If I gave up that easily I wouldn’t have my 36-725. First one I got had a ding on one corner (with Delta blue paint on it so obviously a factory ding) that would have required me to grind it flat. It was a pain to box up, load up and exchange but wasn’t enough to sour me on what is otherwise a very good saw for the money.

Again, the problem seems to be with the retailer, possibly something wrong the mobile base or (gasp) user error with the base assembly, not the saw itself. Hang in there. By all accounts, this is a great lifetime saw.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#15 posted 11-28-2021 04:40 PM

OP, sawstop is the most popular saw in the US. Specifically I would guess the model you got is probably the best seller. I bet at least 20% of those get a mobile base.

I’m really not trying to be an a$$, but Have you considered you might have did something wrong?

Even if there is a hole wrong, maybe consider if it’s easier to drill holes or load up a 400 lbs saw and take it back? My guess would be new holes could be drilled faster than you could even get it on a truck.

Good luck.

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