I am in the Market for a new 12" sliding mitersaw I have two in mind the DEWALT Sliding Compound Miter Saw, 12-Inch (DWS779) and the BOSCH Power Tools GCM12SD - 15 Amp 12 Inch Corded Dual-Bevel Sliding Glide Miter Saw.
The Bosch is few hundred dollars higher than the Dewalt. The Bosch Capacity: Expanded cutting capacity 14 inch horizontal capacity nominal 6 1/2 inch vertical capacity against the fence base 6 1/2 inch crown capacity against the fence 45 spring. The Dewalt Capacity is 2-inch x 14-inch dimensional lumber cross cut capacity at 90 degree and 2-inch x 10-inch dimensional lumber at 45 degree. Bothe are good saws no doubt and I like the fact that the Bosch has a lot smaller foot print fits closer to the wall but there is a big difference in the price Bosch is listed at $649.00 The Dewalt on sale for $399.00. I can buy either but I wanted get the input from you jocks that have had experience using these two saws. I want to get the most for the money without wasting revenue. Thanks in advance Old Rivers
Some people have had trouble with those gliding miter saws making furniture quality cuts. On complaining they've been told it's a carpentry saw. I've read about the glide not cutting straight and the tables/fence not being flat and square.
It looks like a cool saw and I'm sure it has a lot of satisfied users and perhaps they've improved it since I read these things about it.
Thank you Loren I ask and I wanted to know. After checking the reviews the Dewalt keeps coming out on the top I was begining to wonder if there was a rat in the peanut sack, If you look at my projects you will see I need the furniture grade cuts. Looking forward to all lumber Jocks comments.
I have a Bosch glide to me it's a great trim saw. Crown molding and such.
For breaking down lumber it's okay but don't expect to get perfect flat square cuts from thick stock. I do occasionally use it to break up rough lumber but it's problematic just the stress in most timbers will bind the blade and goof up a cut.
Good Luck
I have the Bosch saw and love it. I used my brother in laws Dewalt and liked the saw, but after checking out the Bosch, I went with it and never looked back. In fact, my brother in law also bought one when I did and uses the Bosch in his shop and the Dewalt when working away from the shop.
As you said, I also liked the fact that you can push it right up to the wall vs having to have clearance for the rails. I think the hinge system that the Bosch uses will remain more accurate over the long haul (just an opinion). I like the fact that all of the controls are up front for all of the settings - including compound angle adjustments. One downside of the Bosch is it is a bit heavier than the Dewalt (65 lbs vs 56 lbs) - only a concern if you are moving it from job site to job site.
I also struggled with the cost difference, but have been very happy with the features, accuracy, and cut quality of the Bosch and have never regretted spending the extra $. I have not experienced any issues with binding while cutting large stock, but I have not cut a large amount of it.
Can't comment on the Bosch but I do have the DeWalt DWS779. I'm very happy with it. I don't need it right next to a wall as I use it on the DeWalt stand (DWX723), which I like as well. I changed the blade to a Freud 72 tooth thin kerf for cleaner cuts. I also have it under a Rousseau 5000 dust shroud.
I build farmhouse style furniture for the most part and it was a huge upgrade from the Harbor Freight saw I started out with.
Delta's glider is nice. I use Dewalt at work, have the delta in my shop. Between the two, I would definitely take the delta. Much Smoother and just as accurate.
I have and love thousands of dollars worth of dewalt tools so this is a honest opinion.
I have the Dewalt mentioned above. It is a decent miter saw, but all of this style saw (all makers), are carpentry tools and not for finer work. The Dewalt is smooth with accurate angles.
I use the Dewalt 708 for furniture building and works perectly. I just purchased a Makita LS1013 and works fine, but haven't used it for furniture yet.
Thank you all for this wonderful input I really need this. Hopefully many more Jocks will tell me their experience and the conclusions they what drawn from using Miter saws.
If you keep an eye out sometimes a real nice Dewalt 708 pops up. Back when the DIY craze was happening the 708 was new. A lot over the years has came up for sale.
If you just need a sliding miter, if used you can find some deals. I gave $75 for this Makita a couple months ago and replaced my standard miter saw.
I have to sneak this stuff in these days as I'm retired and wife doesn't understand why I need upgrades..
The main reason I would consider the Bosch is space. It doesn't require the clearance behind the saw for the sliding mechanism. If space is a consideration, Hitachi's (now Metabo) sliding mechanism that stick out the front instead of the back can save the space without the high cost of the Bosch. I don't have one so I cannot comment on the accuracy or overall quality but the one Metabo tool (a narrow crown stapler) that I own seems to be a quality tool. Lowes has the #C12RSH2M on sale for $350 right now.
Anyone own any of the Hitachi/Metabo miter saws that can comment on them?
25" won't give much of anything in support with a traditional slider. It takes more. Like I said I have about 32" and I can't even attach dust collection it's so close to wall. And honestly I would like more support up front.
One thing I dislike about the new dewalt is the dust collection thing sticking out the back. It makes it very hard to attach hose, pushing it even further from wall. IMO, it's poorly designed.
Oldrivers, I was looking at the specs of the Dewalt 12" sliding Miter saw you mentioned and I'm wondering why a 12" blade can only cut a 2" x 12" board.
I should be able to cut over 4" deep. Is it because it doesn't have the power to cut through a 4" x 12" piece of lumber.
I would contact both co. customer service for more info.
I never used either of saws you mentioned and don't know if any sliding miter saw can cut a perfectly square and plum cut.
But what do I know, I own a 10" Roybi sliding miter saw I payed $175.95 for. I can only use for rough cutting and fire wood.
I use the Incra sliding cross cut sled on my table saw for the fine cuts.
I have a delta 10" non sliding saw that a bought when Norm Abrams was still on the air and it still gets a very close to perfect cut even today.
Good luck on your decision and happy thanksgiving and happy holidays!
It takes 25" from the back wall to the fenc on the Dewalt
It takes 20" ;from the back wall to the fence on the Makita
It took 9" with the Makita miter saw..
It s the amount of clearance he/she will need from the fence back.
This tells you how much before you even get to the rest of the saw..
- JackDuren
Ah, I see.
One thing I dislike about the new dewalt is the dust collection thing sticking out the back. It makes it very hard to attach hose, pushing it even further from wall. IMO, it's poorly designed.
I had the Dewalt sitting up on a shelf because of the clearance it takes and I like to keep it for specialty work. I use the Makita miter saw for cabinet face frames. Because the doctors retired me in longer use the face frame saw and when the Makita slider came up for $75, I couldn't refuse to make the change. Now after so many years I'll now have to move my bench out to accommodate the new depth of the slider.
I've had 2 DeWalts now and been very happy with both of them. I originally had the DWS780 and liked everything about that saw except for the footprint and dust collection. The DWS780 did have some play in the head at full extension. I found if I didn't man handle it on wide cuts it was as accurate as anything I have in the shop to check it with. I found myself not using the slider capacity of the DWS780 enough to warrant the space it takes up. So I recently swapped it for an DW716XPS non-slider and am very happy with it as well.
Oldrivers, I was looking at the specs of the Dewalt 12" sliding Miter saw you mentioned and I'm wondering why a 12" blade can only cut a 2" x 12" board.
I should be able to cut over 4" deep. Is it because it doesn't have the power to cut through a 4" x 12" piece of lumber.
DeWalt lists what dimension of dimensional lumber it will cut in their marketing specs not the absolute maximum you can cut. I know it has enough power to cut a 6×8 without issue. With a sacrificial table you can actually get its maximum cut up to 16" if you want. Here is a YouTube video illustrating how to do that.
One more consideration worth mentioning. Most sliders I have seen have a horizontal handle with the trigger on the left which means that it is biased towards using with your right hand and holding the piece with the left. If you are left handed or just need to hold the piece against the fence with the right hand. The Metabo C12RSH2M (and the Makita that Jack Shows above) have a vertical handle which can be worked equally well with either hand. The Horizontal handle seems to be a little more comfortable than the vertical one to me but only if you always work the saw with your right hand.
DeWalt lists what dimension of dimensional lumber it will cut in their marketing specs not the absolute maximum you can cut. I know it has enough power to cut a 6×8 without issue. With a sacrificial table you can actually get its maximum cut up to 16" if you want. Here is a YouTube video illustrating how to do that.
- sansoo22
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Great video Sansoo.
I can see how you can it up 16" with that technique but.
If the blade is 12" and the arbor washer is about 1" that's appropriately 5-1/2" left of the blade.
How do you get past the arbor washer to cut lumber the it 6" high and 8" wide? As you stated above.
I have both of these saws. I bought the DeWalt in 2000, and still in use, but started making some strange noises, 6 years ago, so I bought the Bosch in 2014. I have repaired the Bosch twice. (Switch problems) The Blade that came with the DeWalt was excellent the one that came with the Bosch was junk. The only reason I would recommend the Bosch is if you need to keep the saw close to the back wall. Both are accurate enough for my use.
Not that it's a deal breaker but the blade with today's dewalt sucks. My work bought me the dewalt saw less than a year ago. If it were my blade, I'd throw it away.
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