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11-25-2021 05:45 PM

I have a house full of base and window/door trim to make up. Plus I plan to make an island for my kitchen which will involve some loose tenon joinery, and it seems the horizontal table would be good for mortising the ends of the longer pieces.

Recently I’ve been eyeballing the MLCS Horizontal Router Table. I read a review and the responses about it in the “Reviews” forum here and it seems like a good product overall. I’m just wondering if anyone here has purchased this router table recently, and would like to know your thoughts on it.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/review1.htm#review_horizontal_table_anchor

Thanks in advance for feed back (o:

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"


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#1 posted 11-25-2021 11:39 PM

A horizontal table can be safer for some operations. If you’re using a vertical panel raising bit like that in the review, it’s far better to have the board flat on the table, than to try to run the board vertically against the fence. On the other hand, horizontal panel raising bits are more common, and work fine in a regular table. If you’re going to use a tall molding bit, horizontal will be easier as well.

The main advantage for a horizontal table when cutting mortises is that board length isn’t a factor. Options for cutting them upright limit the length based on the height of the jig from the floor.

If you’ve got the budget, a PantoRouter or Multi-Router will do just about every type of joint you can imagine.

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#2 posted 11-26-2021 05:24 AM

Thanks for the response, Rich. But both Panto and Multi-Router are out of my price range. Plus they both seem a bit overkill for my needs. I was hoping for some feed back on the MLCS but I guess it’s not a very popular item. I’ll probably just fab a horizontal router table myself. Thanks again.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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#3 posted 11-26-2021 05:36 AM



I have a house full of base and window/door trim to make up. Plus I plan to make an island for my kitchen which will involve some loose tenon joinery, and it seems the horizontal table would be good for mortising the ends of the longer pieces.

Keep in mind this is a bring the work to the tool type of operation. If the piece is longer than the table, you have a balancing act. For something like that a Domino is going to be the tool. For making smaller assemblies, yes it would do fine, not so much on longer stuff.

Recently I ve been eyeballing the MLCS Horizontal Router Table. I read a review and the responses about it in the “Reviews” forum here and it seems like a good product overall. I m just wondering if anyone here has purchased this router table recently, and would like to know your thoughts on it.

I can’t speak for that model, mine is made of BB plywood, and for long and continuous runs of something like that you will also see the the flex a horizontal router table gets. I’ve not seen any of them, including mine that has a strong back, where the router is mounted. Due to this using any force, against it varies the bit sometimes substantially. It’s hard to imagine an entire house of trim to make, and not trying to push the machine a little, kinda against human nature. Here a shaper is going to give you better looking trim.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/review1.htm#review_horizontal_table_anchor

Thanks in advance for feed back (o:

- bbc557ci


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#4 posted 11-26-2021 01:58 PM

Keep in mind this is a bring the work to the tool type of operation. If the piece is longer than the table, you have a balancing act. For something like that a Domino is going to be the tool. For making smaller assemblies, yes it would do fine, not so much on longer stuff.

The island I have in mind would be small’ish, about 40-48 inches, so the longer pieces needing to be mortised wouldn’t be too long. I’m not too concerned as I have stands that would add needed support.

I can t speak for that model, mine is made of BB plywood, and for long and continuous runs of something like that you will also see the the flex a horizontal router table gets. I ve not seen any of them, including mine that has a strong back, where the router is mounted. Due to this using any force, against it varies the bit sometimes substantially. It s hard to imagine an entire house of trim to make, and not trying to push the machine a little, kinda against human nature. Here a shaper is going to give you better looking trim.

I hear ya on the possible flex thing. And the strength or weakness of the MLCS is what I’m most curious about…. will it stand up to the use? My engineer brother would often accuse me of “over building” LOL. That said, I’m sure I could make my own, and it would be stout enough to run all of the trim thru, and then some. But having enough on my plate already it would be nice to just spend a few hundred for the MLCS and be done with it.

I have champagne taste but a beer budget, so I’ll prolly end up making a horizontal table myself… we shall see.

https://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/review1.htm#review_horizontal_table_anchor

Thanks for feed back (o:

- bbc557ci

- therealSteveN

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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#5 posted 11-26-2021 02:04 PM

I have the MLCS table and it’s collecting dust. It’s not going to work very well as a mortiser unless you buy the XY table or make one. I bought it thinking convert it into a panto router and never got around to it.

If you’re routing edge profiles, I guess it could work, but the material would have to be vertical, no?

Is the island an open base design? For a kitchen island you normally just build cabinet bases, or else you have lots of “things” like pieces of food accumulating under there.

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#6 posted 11-26-2021 09:43 PM



I have the MLCS table and it’s collecting dust. It’s not going to work very well as a mortiser unless you buy the XY table or make one. I bought it thinking convert it into a panto router and never got around to it.

If you’re routing edge profiles, I guess it could work, but the material would have to be vertical, no?

Is the island an open base design? For a kitchen island you normally just build cabinet bases, or else you have lots of “things” like pieces of food accumulating under there.

- Robert

Base will be +,- 5 inches high and door/window casings will be 3.5-3.75 inches. I have a variety of router bits. The bit I plan to use will produce kind of a shallow “J” about 3/4 to 7/8 inch down from the top of the base. And about 5/8 or so for the inside edges of the casings… noth’n fancy. The house is about 1650 SF with plenty of doors, archways, windows, and of course, base. I’ve never used a horizontally mounted router. But thinking that laying the boards flat to go thru the router would be a little easier than running them thru vertical. But I could be wrong LOL. I priced millwork similar in size at area box stores and a local lumber yard. And the store bought trim far exceeds what I paid for the Poplar (S3S), even the MDF trim is more $$. I’m retired so I have the time to proceed as planned.

I’ll run a piece or two thru my existing router table before making up my mind about the horizontal…. we shall see.

-- Bill, central NY...no where near the "big apple"

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