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Forum topic by Ark68SS posted 11-23-2021 02:21 AM 281 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ark68SS

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11-23-2021 02:21 AM

New member, first post, consider myself an intermediate level woodworker.
There is a model 40250 15” Steel City planer for sale close to my son’s place. Owner is asking $2000 OBO. It has a Byrd Shelix head on it, and from the pictures looks like it’s in good shape. The feed speed knob has been replaced with a wooden handle, but everything else that I can see is OK.
I have a SC granite TS and a iron table BS and am happy with the quality of the tools. I know there can be a problem with parts availability, but so far I’ve been able to keep the machines going.
A Google search shows the planer sold for ~$1400 new and a Shelix head is about $750.
I think the guy is a little out of line on the price and was thinking of offering $900. Wondering what ya’ll think is a decent deal.
Thanks,
BillL


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#1 posted 11-24-2021 11:28 AM

Welcome to LumberJocks!

15” four post planer design used on that Steel City model has been built since 1980’s, and are clones of Delta product made in 70’s. All the mfg are selling similar tools, from same couple of mfg, and there is wide parts compatibility. I have rebuilt several brands of 15” planers, and parts for most any brand are easy to get from Jet/Grizzly as they have sold same mfg models as everyone else.
Try searching for generic 15” planer information to learn more about part/model similarities

My thoughts on used tool pricing can be found here There has been a lot of ups/downs in used tool market in last 2 years thanks to Covid (link explains some of them).

In my area, used 15” planer with straight blades in good working order sells for $500-$800. See them listed about once month, and they tend to sell instantly when priced fairly. There are 15” planers priced higher, but some are a 2 year old Powermatic with helix head that owner paid over $3000; which are worth more to the right buyer.
Have not seen a segmented head 15” planer advertised in last 2 years for less $1250, with most asking more. Rarely see segmented head models listed for sale, so scarcity raises prices.

BTW – Segmented carbide heads are not all same, some are more expensive new. A used Byrd head holds resale value better than Chinese made spiral segmented carbide head. The retained value of segmented head addition should (IMHO) be determined by number of unused cutting surfaces on the bits. Replacing all the cutters is expensive and reduces value considerably.
Considering a fair base price for recently mfg 15” planer is $700-$800, and used segmented head adds $400-600; would estimate a sales range of $1100-$1400? This is just below 50% of new model Grizzly unit. Probability of buying it for less than $1000 is low; unless the machine is bork’d and leaking oil, or have a highly motivated seller. But it never hurts to ask for lower price.

Best Luck!

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#2 posted 11-25-2021 03:57 AM

Thank you for the reply. I sent him an offer of $1200 max based on my approval after looking at it. He told me not to bother. I see the listing is gone now, will wait and see if it come back.
BillL

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#3 posted 11-25-2021 02:56 PM

Sorry you missed out, the used tool market (IMO) is complexity out of wack I see used Dewalt’s 735 selling for 500-600 or really old 15” – 20” planers for 2000-3000. I’ve given up on buying a used planer & am buying new. I figure for 10 -25% more I’m getting something with a warranty & I won’t have to work on it.

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