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11-11-2021 08:23 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router biscuit joiner

https://nuggetsmall.com/products/Woodworking-mortise-and-tenon-punching-fixture

Has anyone tried this guy?

Looks interesting… plus I’ve been in the market for another router (because I’m too lazy to change bits) and a compact router might be a good complement to the three regular ones I’m endowed with.

I’ve been using dowel joints when this kind of thing is called for (and when a pocket hole screw would be ugly), but dowels are always a time-consuming PITA to set up – even with my deluxe Milescraft jig.


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#1 posted 11-11-2021 10:01 PM

Looks pretty I interesting to me!

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#2 posted 11-11-2021 10:06 PM



Looks pretty I interesting to me!

- AMZ


+1

I would like to see if someone has used this.
I would like to have a domino. But I really can’t justify its price tag.
Something like this may be the way to go for me.

-- John

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#3 posted 11-11-2021 10:22 PM

The main issue I see is potential clumsiness. The Domino is sweeping side-to-side under its own power. All you have to do is plunge it forward. That’s pretty natural since it pushes the tool against the board and the handle on the plate makes it easy to keep it square to the cut.

That tool looks like you have to manually move the router back and forth as well as plunge it. Seems like it might be hard to hold it steady against the board. You could use clamps to fix that. It’d be more of a hassle, but not that bad.

If you did buy the jig, I’d recommend getting true metric bits. 5/16” is 7.94mm, not 8mm, so an 8mm domino isn’t going to fit without hammering, and 3/8” is 9.52mm, which is so far from 10mm that I doubt you could even hammer it in. True metric sizes would solve that, and allow you to use the full 4mm to 10mm range of D500 dominoes.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#4 posted 11-11-2021 10:33 PM

Short demo cutting tenons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-xIhH99Gc

Full demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO4OIUuFFZ8

For anyone interested those two videos appear to be from the guy that actually designed it. Seems a tad slow and with no option for dust collection. I will probably keep saving for a domino but if anyone here does pick one up please let us know how it works.

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#5 posted 11-11-2021 10:43 PM

Router jigs for cutting mortises, even those applied to loose tenon joints, have been around for a lot longer than the Festool Domino has. Tage Frid described one in his books, and there are many others for use as roughly stationary tools. The slot mortiser on the Shopbuilt youtube channel is worthy of mention, and many others vary in lots of ways.

I think that Nuggetsmall one has some nice advantages in terms of compactness and precision that could make it desirable compared to a shopmade version. I found a video of what looks like it in action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zn7ZDscblg although the link from the video page was selling the jig for $200. If that is the same thing, it looks well worth the $40 Nuggetsmall asking price.

-- Alan in Wisconsin

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#6 posted 11-11-2021 11:38 PM

I was thinking that I had saw another Domino copy. Woodpeckers had this thing a while back.
$439 to $639 I thought that was crazy

https://www.woodpeck.com/morty-loose-tenon-jig.html

And original offer of $200 on this latest one, Now only $39.99 says to me no one is buying it.
Still looks interesting though

-- John

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#7 posted 11-11-2021 11:44 PM

Ok you cut the mortise, now what? Do dominos fit?

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#8 posted 11-11-2021 11:52 PM

Site looks shifty and considering the jig sells for $200 on ebay it might be a scam at the price. The jig does look like it works pretty well though from the videos I’ve seen. The concept seems sound.

My Makita router came with an 8mm collet of sorts. I never measured it to confirm it’s 8mm though. I say of sorts because it’s more like a ring than a cone shaped collet. 8mm spiral bits are cheap.

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#9 posted 11-12-2021 12:26 AM


Ok you cut the mortise, now what? Do dominos fit?

- SMP

Yeah, that’s what I said above about using true metric router bits. That web site offers an 8mm bit with collet, but then they refer to using 5/16” for 8mm and 3/8 for 10mm. Those aren’t even close.

But to answer your question, the D500 dominos run from 4 to 10mm, so with metric bits, you’d have a perfect fit. The width of the mortise isn’t critical. When you use the domino, you typically make one of the mortises exact width and then widen the setting for the rest so it goes together easily. Only a good fit on the faces matters for glue up anyway.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#10 posted 11-12-2021 12:29 AM



Site looks shifty and considering the jig sells for $200 on ebay it might be a scam at the price.
- Loren

The same jig? I didn’t find it, but I’m not doubting that you did!

The closest thing I saw was a General Tools jig for $130. I have their dovetail jig and like it very much – and I bought two others. Theirs is the only one that’s not a huge proctological issue to even get close to using.

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#11 posted 11-12-2021 02:22 AM

It’s called a Tianli handheld mortiser.

https://unitedclamps.ca/products/domino-jig-for-makita-rt0701c

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#12 posted 11-12-2021 02:58 AM

hmmm 40 bucks with a big discount ? like they say you get what you pay for.so who’s first ? better hurry sale ends soon !

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#13 posted 11-12-2021 04:55 AM


better hurry sale ends soon !

- pottz

Remedial Marketing, chapter 1

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#14 posted 11-12-2021 10:48 AM


better hurry sale ends soon !

- pottz

Remedial Marketing, chapter 1

- SMP


“so you don’t forget, order before midnight tonight” was the phrase I always remember.

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#15 posted 11-12-2021 06:06 PM

It actually does look like one of those bogus websites, now that I see the same thing selling for several times that.

If anyone does it, use a credit card or Paypal to protect yourself!

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