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Forum topic by K7TXA posted 11-03-2021 04:40 PM 562 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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K7TXA

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11-03-2021 04:40 PM

Hi all -

I’m looking at a fun project – building a bunch of wall and base cabinets for my garage shop. Got some plywood sheets on their way and will need to break them down before cutting to length on the new table saw.

In the past I’ve used a corded Skill worm-drive saw to cut down sheet goods. Works pretty well, but the amount of sawdust it blows around is astounding. Well, the weather here in Idaho is kinda unpredictable and I’d rather not have to haul my two Kreg portable workstations into the driveway and put the plywood out there to cut it. But using the Skill saw in the garage will undoubtedly make a huge mess.

Been looking at the Makita SP6000J trac saw to handle my sheet good break down tasks. My question is how good is the dust collection on that saw? I’d be using a Rigid Shop Vac connected to the Makita – will it suck enough of the dust from my cuts that I could do my breakdowns in the garage, or will it still make a mess?

Jim

-- Jim / Eagle, Idaho


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sansoo22

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#1 posted 11-03-2021 05:05 PM

The trick is finding the right adapters and/or hose to fit on the Makita saw. They copied Festool so its also a Festool size dust port on the saw. I have a redneck engineered solution on mine right now and I use it to cut inside the shop when its too cold to be outside. I still get some dust on the floor directly under my saw horses but nothing a quick vacuuming can’t take care of.

I’ve been told this Bosch vacuum hose fits perfectly on the Makita track saw and a standard shop vac. But it’s $55 dollars and I don’t use the track saw inside enough to warrant its cost yet.

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Fred Hargis

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#2 posted 11-03-2021 05:09 PM

I don’t have the Makita, but I do have a Festool. Looking at the Makita I wouldn’t expect it to much different than the Festool. I hook mine to a Fein vac and the dust collection is quite acceptable. I’ve read posts where guys have said they wouldn’t be afraid to use their Festool in their living room because the DC is so good. BS!. You still get some dust spilling out from under the wood, but not so much that I would call it a huge mess. Also, I don’t think it matters what vac you hook to it. If it has a reasonable suction you’ll do a lot better than with the worm drive saw. If your vac hose is 2 1/2” (+/-) you ight want to get a 1 1/4 ” inch one, then cobble together a connection.

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sansoo22

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#3 posted 11-03-2021 05:15 PM

Fred makes a very good point about the hose size. I use my 2-1/2” hose and it can be a bit unwieldy at times. Usually at the most inopportune time like finishing the last 6” of a cut but I power thru and the hose pops off and then mess everywhere.

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hotbyte

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#4 posted 11-03-2021 05:30 PM

I use that Bosch hose between my Oneida Supercell (via 4” pvc ductwork adapted down to shop vac port size) and Festool TS55. On cuts, there is still a little dust that gets by but nothings near as bad as when I used construction circ saw and straight edge. I’d say 98% or more collected. On edge trims, it still spews a lot of stuff like every other edge trim.

Also, if you invest in good cutting station, I bought the Parf Guide system and made my own table, you can get final cuts on track saw…no need to use tablesaw.

Overall, there is no way I’d go back to breaking down plywood in a construction saw and straight edge.

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vind

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#5 posted 11-03-2021 05:46 PM

I use this hose to hook my Makita track saw, and other tools, to a small shop vac. It works great with very little dust

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0849L6LLH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If the price scares you it’s in Canadian $$.

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controlfreak

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#6 posted 11-03-2021 06:25 PM

I got a Rockler hose for my Grisly track saw and while not perfect it does get a lot of the saw dust out of the way. I think it is a great add on to any indoor track saw use.

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K7TXA

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#7 posted 11-03-2021 07:33 PM

Well, I pulled the trigger and placed an order for the Makita and additional 55” trac at AcmeTool, and a Centec hose and adapters. Looking forward to the new stuff..

Thanks folks!

-- Jim / Eagle, Idaho

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sansoo22

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#8 posted 11-03-2021 07:40 PM

Awesome. I think you will be happy with the saw. If you need clamps for the track I recommend the DeWalt track saw clamps over the Makita or Festool. The DeWalts are a quick release and fairly inexpensive at $40 for the pair. They probably dont offer the same clamping pressure but really you just need enough pressure to keep the track from slipping on 8’ rips or when using the track on slicker materials like Masonite.

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#9 posted 11-03-2021 11:44 PM

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Knockonit

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#10 posted 11-04-2021 12:03 AM



I use this hose to hook my Makita track saw, and other tools, to a small shop vac. It works great with very little dust

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0849L6LLH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If the price scares you it s in Canadian $$.

- vind

someone posted this link a wjhile back, and in last weekend or two, have put it to use, fits dang near everything i have, and have it hooked to my big collector thats mobile, and i do have a festool vac, but have not utilized it with new hose, the hose that came with it is ok, just doesn’t fit much with out mods.
good luck
rj in az

-- Living the dream

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gtrgeo

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#11 posted 11-04-2021 05:44 AM

I have the Makita cordless and use the Bosch hose with a Fien vacuum and a dust deputy. It works quite well the Bosch hose friction fits in the Makita’s dust port. I find the key to dust control is to keep the blade encapsulated. If the material you are cutting is exposed on the bottom side you will get some dust escaping. I do this when breaking down sheet goods in the garage and a quick vacuum or sweep of the area gets what is not collected during the cuts. If you cut with a sacrificial sheet of material or some use a sheet of insulating foam, very little escapes. It is not perfect but is very minor compared to a standard circular saw. I would say ~1% of the dust.

Regarding using the track saw in the house. I have cut both sheetgoods and Sheetrock with the Makita in my living room. I needed to remove a section of wall for the stair remodel and I found I could get a clean straight cut with less mess than scoring with a utility knife. I used the tracksaw to cut up the particle board subfloor when we pulled the carpet and laid hardwood. Cutting the subfloor into squares makes for easier removal. I had done this in the past with a circular saw which made quite a mess. Using the track saw and a cheap 6-1/2” blade made this a much cleaner job. I have a hepa filter in the vac so this helps reduce the fine dust.

I have been replacing all of the trim in my house with built up MDF pieces since it is all painted. I have been able to eliminate the need to lift the heavy sheets onto the table saw and can generally use the pices cut right from the track saw. No need to clean up on the table saw.

I started out with the 2-55” tracks and quickly bought the 39” track which makes the saw a little more maneuverable in my small shop. This was very handy on my stair remodel cutting the skirt and treads. I recently got a great deal on a new in box 118” track. This has been great to use the longer track for breaking down full sheets and still have the 55” track free for cross cuts.

They can be a bit pricey but I am continually finding it to be one of the handiest tools I own. I have started to question if I really need a table saw. If I only worked with sheetgoods, I could see that being possible. I still like having my Sawstop for making smaller cuts and working solid woods. But, I sure do not miss trying to run 4×8 sheets across it.

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hotbyte

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#12 posted 11-04-2021 11:10 AM

110% agree!!!

They can be a bit pricey but I am continually finding it to be one of the handiest tools I own. I have started to question if I really need a table saw. If I only worked with sheetgoods, I could see that being possible. I still like having my Sawstop for making smaller cuts and working solid woods. But, I sure do not miss trying to run 4×8 sheets across it.

- gtrgeo


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bondogaposis

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#13 posted 11-04-2021 12:40 PM

I have the corded version of that saw and run it hooked up to my Rigid shop vac and the dust collection works very well.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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waho6o9

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#14 posted 11-04-2021 01:41 PM

Enjoy your new saw!

When ripping 8 foot lengths of plywood I use a middle side support to keep lateral pressure from messing
up my measurements.

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