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Forum topic by Ocelot posted 10-27-2021 12:18 PM 1075 views 0 times favorited 31 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Ocelot

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10-27-2021 12:18 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tearout figured hickory curly

I need a drum sander apparently.

For years I’ve read people talking about the struggles with figured hardwoods and I thought they just didn’t know how to sharpen things maybe or didn’t have a jointer and planer with carbide inserts like me. Of course as a tool and lumber collector I’ve wanted a drum sander but I didn’t really think I needed one.

So I was over at Hobby Hardwood Saturday and picked up a few things. Amongst which was a short 0.7 bf of curly hickory I thought would make an interesting box.

There was some tearout on it. I figured it was in a long run of lumber and didn’t get the sharpest planer. By the way, they have a one pass planer jointer over there that’s a real beast. They bought a generator from a hospital to power it. I’m sure it’s carbide but I didn’t ask.

So I took my little piece of curly hickory and just for fun stroked it with one of my recently sharpened hand planes and I got nice curlies but the tearout never went away. So I fired up the G0490x jointer. Same story. I’m going to rotate the inserts next I hope I end up with enough thickness to make a box.

I need a drum sander.

It’s a really cool looking little board and I would have bought more shorts like that if I had found any. But it’s a lesson for sure!

Sorry no pictures yet.

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.


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BB1

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#1 posted 10-27-2021 12:22 PM

Hickory is a challenge to me. Love the look but often struggle with tearout. Look forward to seeing your project from this piece.

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bondogaposis

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#2 posted 10-27-2021 12:46 PM

I had some quilted maple that would tearout with a freshly sharpened card scraper. Sanding was the only thing that didn’t cause tearout.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#3 posted 10-27-2021 02:24 PM

There’s a Performax 10/20 on CL for $500. It’s the smallest drum sander I’ve seen. I think list is 1100. Still, I’m not sure it’s worth the drive to look at it. Its about 2 hours away, I think.

... you know… for my $5 board. :0

-Paul

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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therealSteveN

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#4 posted 10-27-2021 02:47 PM

Lacking the wide sander, which does get it done BTW, you may consider lightly wetting the surface, and running it through cutterheads, or even with hand planes at an angle, it skew cuts better than blunt head on. The moisture helps keep the surface fibers from lifting. once they are headed upward it’s all over until it’s a mess.

Like Dad used to say, nothing ventured, nothing gained. :-)

-- Think safe, be safe

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#5 posted 10-27-2021 03:03 PM

I bought a used Jet 16-32 use it all the time for tare out.

-- Petey

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#6 posted 10-27-2021 03:10 PM

i have the jet 16/32 and love it.id think twice about a 10/20 unless all you do is small stuff,you’ll probably regret it later. i wish now that i had gone even bigger but it works fine.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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#7 posted 10-27-2021 04:13 PM

+1

There is a big jump in capability (power and durability being tops) when stepping up from the “entry level” 10” sanders. They are fine for small stuff, but once you need to do wider boards (like > 6”) the extra power starts to become a necessity.

The 16” class are a good upgrade and I’ve been more than happy with my 16/32 Performax. I may go bigger at some point but the capacity increase comes with an exponential price increase.

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Ocelot

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#8 posted 10-27-2021 05:20 PM

RealSteve,

I did skew my handplane and I had heard about wetting the wood, but I ddn’t try it (yet). I don’t have plumbing in my shop and didn’t want to walk to the house at that moment, which leaves dipping a paper towel in the cat’s water bowl, which I would have done if I had thought of it. :-)

I think I need to rotate the inserts in my jointer anyway (planer too, probably). So I’l try that plus water.

-Paul

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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Ocelot

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#9 posted 10-27-2021 05:26 PM

I hear you guys about the larger drum sanders. If I could get the 10/20 for $350 though, I might dip my toe in at that level before I go spend a lot more on a bigger one. I see the jJet 10/20 is only $900 at Home Depot and the shop fox 18/36 is $1075 with free shipping to store. That’s an easy choice upgrade and $600 cheaper than on grizzly’s site. Hmmm. I can probably cancel the order if I need to.

Order placed!

1134 with free delivery tax and all

-Paul

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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#10 posted 10-27-2021 05:40 PM

not sure about that shop fox reviews seem kinda mixed.jet and performax are what most seem to use here.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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Ocelot

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#11 posted 10-27-2021 05:43 PM

Ok wife informed. “Don’t you dare” (cancel it) she says. :-) She’s a honey, isn’t she!

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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Ocelot

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#12 posted 10-27-2021 05:44 PM

Jet and performax are much more expensive and it seems that at least some people are pretty happy with the shop fox, so we’ll see. I can still cancel if there’s a good reason to.

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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pottz

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#13 posted 10-27-2021 05:45 PM

tell her it’s too late,non refundable special order,already shipped,lol.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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Ocelot

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#14 posted 10-27-2021 05:46 PM

I think the trick is to use relatively coarse grit and take very light passes. From what I’ve read. And there is some trick with the paper clamps on all of these beasts.

-- I intended to be a woodworker, but turned into a tool and lumber collector.

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pottz

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#15 posted 10-27-2021 05:58 PM

yeah i run mine with 80 or 100 grit and light pressure or you can get burning or stall the sander.the clamps can be a pain,just takes some practice.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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