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10-23-2021 02:06 PM

A good friend of mine was gifted these beautiful knives.

He would like me to design and build some sort of a display for them. I’m thinking of a deep box/frame with a glass front. I am struggling with how best to hold/mount the knives as I don’t want to distract from the knives themselves. I was thinking of forming some small shelves that they would rest on. And then use either paint or flocking for the inside. I have not worked with flocking so that would be something I need to look into and practice.

If anyone has built a knife display or has ideas I would greatly appreciate it.


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#1 posted 10-23-2021 02:27 PM

Size of the knives – one is 15” and the other about 12”. So far I’ve only seen the pictures so not sure of overall weight, etc.

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#2 posted 10-23-2021 03:09 PM

I can’t really offer up a solution, but some ideas:

For a wall mounted case, the ones I’ve seen all seem to use dowels/pegs in strategic locations. Simple, but not really elegant. I’d be tempted to mount several RE magnets in a raised block to grab onto the blade for holding. The block would be thick enough to allow the handle to sit flush with the case and make flat contact with the blade. Might need a taper or shim to compensate for the blades bevel. The magnets (rod style) would grab onto the flat area at the blades spine. I have a vast assortment of these magnets accumulated over the years and the first I’d grab for testing probably would be a pair of 1/2” diameter by 3/4” long (experiment with opposite magnet poles touching the blade).

The magnets should be spaced as far as possible on the blade to counter the torque from the handle and I’d think about maybe a slight angle on the magnet at the blade tip end of the shorter knife so it can sit flush with the blade metal at that end.

Anyway, plenty of other holding options.

For the case, the popular ones all seem to be just a shadow box, usually with a glass front, some are really just a frame.

Flocking is super easy, but you could also use most any material since the back usually is a flat surface. You can flock or cover the back before securing it to the frame/box.

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#3 posted 10-23-2021 05:30 PM

Wall mount would be the way to go. Possible a leather inside back to the case and definitely a glass front.

Magnets would be cool for a non visible way to suspend them. Tests out different looks…line pointed in the same direction , pointing in opposite directions, and an angle and parallel to each other. I have an Indian axe made out of a railroad spike and I have been testing out a look for it for 4 months now!!!!!!!

You’ll figure it out…..............Cheers, Jim

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#4 posted 10-23-2021 07:47 PM

Splintergroup – I hadn’t thought of magnets!
Interesting idea. If using a block to mount, I’m trying to visualize how to incorporate a covering that would blend with the backer. Flocking might work in that case as the back wouldn’t be completely flat (if I’m picturing this correctly). Do you have any particular magnet brand that you would recommend?

Jim – I agree that a wall hanging option would seem best. Will have to see if I can get the knives in hand to get a better feel of the balance points and try different arrangements. I had limited my thoughts to parallel and either horizontal or vertical, but as you noted, many more options exist. Will look forward to seeing your display when you make your final decision.

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#5 posted 10-23-2021 08:44 PM

Those are great knives Beverly.

I recently built a display cabinet for my bit brace.

If you look at my projects it’s the 2nd one down.

You may get some ideas there. I made some hanging brackets from scrap mahogany.

I hope this helps.

-- James E McIntyre

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#6 posted 10-23-2021 09:22 PM

The block would be hidden behind each blade, really a narrow square of wood whose purpose is only providing a place to support rod magnets.

Imagine this mounted to the show boxes back panel and cut narrow and short enough that it can’t be seen behind the blade when viewing straight on. Probably painted black as well.

Theoretically you could simply drill holes the diameter of the rod magnets into the back panel and epoxy them in place. This would work, but I’d question how secure they would be since magnets are notorious for pulling out when only attached minimally that way.

If you could drill in about 3/8” to 1/2” into the back panel I’d think it would be fine.

Alternatively, you could try something like these (available on Amazon)

They could secure to the back panel with screws, but you might have to space them out a bit so the knife handle doesn’t touch the panel and allows it to stay “suspended”

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#7 posted 10-23-2021 10:07 PM

James- thanks for sharing that project. I don’t know if he’ll want to be able to access the knives (if so, an access door like you have would be nice) or if this is for display only.

Splintergroup- thanks for that added info. He’s going to drop off the knives so that should help with perspective on size and weight. I agree if the backing is dark, it should be easy (haha…is anything easy?!) to hide the support blocks.

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#8 posted 10-23-2021 10:17 PM

Great, I think you will have fun with a project like this 8^)

Reconsidering the sizes you listed, I think a wood spacer block sized to the magnets and the bar magnets would be the easiest and most economical.

The metal “U” channel around the magnet really helps with the grip on the knives (I’d use two magnets per knife) and with the screw attachment they’d be the easiest to install. You so need to be careful with these pre-drilled magnets since over-tightening the screes will cause them to break (very brittle!)

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#9 posted 10-23-2021 10:58 PM

I couldn’t find that brand, but these look similar
Strong Neodymium Rectangular Pot Magnets with Counter Bore, 55 lbs(25 KG) Pulling Force Countersunk Hole Magnets with Mounting Screws – 60×13.5×5mm, Pack of 4… https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BLJBP5P/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_QPD1QPH9G2BZ2RDX9MD3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

And then saw these – like the black color but likely suboptimal for attaching:
Neodymium Bar Magnets with Epoxy Coating, Powerful Permanent Rare Earth Magnets- 60×10 x 3mm, Pack of 6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TMPRB39/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_WPQJ216E5VVDT4AP8T20?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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#10 posted 10-23-2021 11:10 PM

Yep, the first ones.

Bad thing is, you can get 10 for $20. Tough to figure out when to quit 8^)

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#11 posted 10-24-2021 12:19 AM



Yep, the first ones.

Bad thing is, you can get 10 for $20. Tough to figure out when to quit 8^)

- splintergroup

Ah yes, I see the same type but for less per unit. More is always better than less ;)

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#12 posted 10-24-2021 04:25 AM

My son makes knives. Too, he makes sheaths that are no less beautiful. He’s not much into woodwork yet, so I came up with a display to show off the knife, keep it safe and yet still be easily accessible. Been busy, so haven’t finished it yet, but it’s simple enough:

(1) Start with a thin box, say two inches deep and with enough air around the knife and sheath (since knives shouldn’t be stored in them, because they draw moisture) to make it highly visible. Say, six inches tall and a few inches longer than the knife and sheath.

(2) The face would be glass or acrylic.

(3) The back would just fit inside the box, and not be attached. It would attach to the wall permanently, and would have three or four rare earth magnets inset in the top edge. They would mate up with magnets on the underside of the top of the box.

The magnets is would allow you to access the knife by just pulling on the box.

I built a kitchen cabinet panel over a mini pantry using rare earth magnets to hold it in place. It can be pulled straight down, to allow access to a couple shelves that would not be accessible otherwise, because a door curtain rod makes having a door over the shelves unworkable.

To put it back , you just have to get the magnets in the in the vicinity of each other and they pull themselves in place. Since the back of the panel fits in between the styles, the panel is even more self aligning than what just the magnets offer.

Because the rare earth magnets don’t loose their ummph for about fifty years, I have forty-three to go before they have to be replaced.

It may be a French cleat approach would work in place of the magnet approach.

The whole interior of mine, including the back, will be done in tan flocking, since it would best show off some of the knives and the sheaths. On another day, I might go with green or gray. Anyway, it’s so easy to get perfect results with flocking and acrylic paint, it seems the way to go, since even light would could distract from the knives.

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#13 posted 10-24-2021 12:44 PM

Kelly – thank you for sharing your plans. Will look forward to seeing your final project. How are you holding the knife in place- with additional magnets in the backer board?

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#14 posted 10-24-2021 02:58 PM

Have you looked into a shadow box? You could put small hinges if they want to access the knives easily.

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#15 posted 10-24-2021 04:37 PM

School is out on which approach I want to take for supporting the knife and the sheath.

I have lots of rare earth magnets, including bars similar to those posted above. If I embed them I could flock over the top. The thin layer wouldn’t affect the pull of the magnets much. And the flocking would insulate the knife blade from the metal of the magnet.

Too, I have pounds and pounds of acrylics. I could use the scroll saw to cut a slot from one piece, for the tip to go through, or I could make a U for all four ends to rest in.

A bit of sanding and buffing and blue / black / red / yellow / clear / one of the, appropriate for the cause, fluorescent colors would solve that problem.

If I were showing off knives with horn handles, I might devise holders from horn, which might be as simple as slicing, sandwiching staggered pieces using glue. Maybe mitered slabs would look better.

Anyway you went with bone, a scroll or jewelers saw, some sand paper [and dust collection, unless you like dentists] would open those kinds of doors.

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