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apehl

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10-12-2021 01:59 PM

Topic tags/keywords: drawer drawer slide slide jig mounting vanity

I am building a vanity and have already installed the face frame. I will be using full extension side mount slides for the drawers. I am using the Rockler universal drawer mounting jig. When I seat the jig against the face frame I noticed the slides are not level. Is it more important to level these slides or to make them perpendicular to the face?

I would assume I would level them but not being experienced in drawers I wanted to make sure.


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#1 posted 10-12-2021 02:18 PM

Does that means your face frame is not plumb?

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#2 posted 10-12-2021 02:19 PM

If they were level and the front side of the case was, say, 30 degrees off level, imagine what the front drawer face looks like. It would be perpendicular to the slides, and thus way off from flush when the drawer was closed.

Of course the right answer is “yes”: both level and perpendicular, but if the case isn’t level, you have to make the slides perpendicular. Not being level means they will tend to open or close themselves depending on which way the case is leaning. But at least they will close flush.

Of course you could make the drawers cockeyed to compensate for the lean in the case, and then the slides could be level. I’ve seen a drawer front shimmed a bit relative to the drawer box to do that. Not a great idea.

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#3 posted 10-12-2021 02:26 PM

I’ve always found it easier to cut a piece of wood to set the guides on.
Takes all the guesswork out of it.

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#4 posted 10-12-2021 02:33 PM

I would make them level. If the drawer faces are not flush with the face frame after leveling, then I would plane the faces so that they become flush with the face frame.

Regarding drawer slide mounting jigs: I bought a Kreg mounting jig many years ago. After my first less-than-satisfying slide mounting exercise, I put it away and began using spacer blocks when installing slides. That jig is collecting dust somewhere in my shop.

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#5 posted 10-12-2021 02:37 PM

What Leroy said.

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#6 posted 10-12-2021 02:59 PM



What Leroy said.

- shipwright

Yep, that’s the way I always install them.

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#7 posted 10-12-2021 03:03 PM



I ve always found it easier to cut a piece of wood to set the guides on.
Takes all the guesswork out of it.

- LeeRoyMan


And when that piece is first made, cut one end at an angle. Insert it with the angle at the bottom so it will stay against the wall. When the top slides are installed, if you have more to install, make your cut from the top, leaving the angle on the bottom end. ............. Jerry (in Tucson)

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#8 posted 10-12-2021 04:16 PM

For me it depends if it euro or face frame, stack or not. You can buy the inserts and plastic frame mount kits and use the drawer front to set the guides…

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apehl

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#9 posted 10-12-2021 07:54 PM

Drawer fronts will be a shaker style and rest on face of the frame rather than recessed. Therefore if the slides are level but not perpendicular then i could shim or allow the fronts not to sit flush on the face without it being as noticeable as a recessed or flush drawer.

not sure why image is upside down

view of the face frame

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#10 posted 10-12-2021 08:38 PM

I’ve never used a level once to mount drawers.
Perpendicular to the face is what you want.
Both slides have to be parallel with each other. You can’t have one side going up and the other side going down.
If your drawer front doesn’t sit flat on the face you can adjust the back of the slides up or down to correct it.

Edit: If your drawers slides are perpendicular, when you install and level the cabinets, your drawer slides will be as level as you make the cabinets.

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#11 posted 10-12-2021 10:46 PM

I tried following the issue, but, admittedly I got a bit confused.

If your cabinet is built on a level and true flat surface, so as not to introduce a twist during assembly, and your parts are cut square, and the face frame is assembled square, you will have a much easier time installing drawer guides. (No need for the small level on the jig, because perpendicular to the face will be automatically level)

I keep a short assembly table level and true for just this purpose.
Hope this helps.

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#12 posted 10-12-2021 10:55 PM


What Leroy said.

- shipwright

Yep, that s the way I always install them.

- Fred Hargis

I guess I am spoiled as the CNC drills the mounting holes really accurately.
I’ve been jigless since 1998

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#13 posted 10-13-2021 03:00 AM

What Leroy is telling you.

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#14 posted 10-13-2021 04:33 PM

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#15 posted 10-16-2021 11:28 PM

I thought I had some pictures from a job I did…

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