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Karda

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09-27-2021 10:48 PM

I was given this once turned walnut bowl how do you turn the outside in the proper direction, bottom to top sice to start down by the chuck there is now bevel support. I have never been able to do this. What am I missing. My gouge ir ground to 55 degrees thanks Mike


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#1 posted 09-27-2021 11:39 PM

That would be backwards. Start at the rim and cut down to the base. Never cut uphill.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#2 posted 09-27-2021 11:43 PM

+1. Work down hill.

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#3 posted 09-27-2021 11:45 PM

Yup, it’s an end grain bowl. To cut supported fibers (downhill), you need to work towards the center.

-- John F. SoCal transplant, chewer uppper of good wood

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#4 posted 09-27-2021 11:45 PM

yo cut the way the grain is supported. cutting down hill is cutting into the grain

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#5 posted 09-28-2021 02:37 AM

yo cut the way the grain is supported. cutting down hill is cutting into the grain

If you know more than I/we do, why ask?

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#6 posted 09-28-2021 03:09 AM

I would try to cut downhill like they mentioned, I have been in sitituations like this and it worked for me. You will need to have very sharp tools. Have you even tried this method yet. Just curious and my two cents worth . Mel

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#7 posted 09-28-2021 04:05 AM

i try to avoid cutting against the grain The other gouge I used was a 60-65 degree bevel mabe I could do it with that angle

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#8 posted 09-28-2021 05:00 PM

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#9 posted 09-28-2021 05:17 PM

I see you now have a chuck. Great. I would suggest you remount the blank from the other side (what will be the inside of the bowl). While you have it mounted as it is cut either a new tenon or a recess (mortise) for the chuck and turn the blank around. Then turn and finish sanding the bottom. Then either leave the existing tenon or create a new mortise in the bottom and turn the bowl around again to rout out and finish the inside. I like to use the mortise mount on the bottom and just leave it in the finished item….often decorating it with a series of beads from the center leaving a wide enough gap at the rim for the chuck jaws. The mortise only needs to be around 3/16” deep.

I think your will find turning the bottom first with this method will be easier than the awkward angle you are working from now.
I read the article WoodenDreams cited and agree with it but when add for safety when using higher speeds try to make use of the tail stock for support where possible. This is easie when turnig the bottom as I described above.

-- Les B, Oregon

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#10 posted 09-28-2021 05:39 PM

Another thought: If you use a mortise, you can turn a separate base to fill the recess.

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#11 posted 09-28-2021 06:02 PM

Form what I see I would have put the outside of the tree on rim of the bowl.
Just like a natural edge bowl
Good Luck looks like nice walnut

-- Aj

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Karda

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#12 posted 09-28-2021 06:06 PM

the bowl has already been rough turned, there is know place to fasten to on the bowl side. I used My gouge with a much steeper bevel that got it. When its free you gota work with what you have. This is the one thing I don’t like about twice turning

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#13 posted 09-28-2021 06:11 PM

gerry I meant no disrespect, I always learn from you guys its just that is the way I learned cut with supported grain. I did turn top to bottom and it cut cleaner that the other way. Les I have had a chuck for a long time, I do do glue block from time to time

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#14 posted 09-28-2021 10:37 PM

Depends on the wobble. But I usually shear scrape the outside. That way I can keep as much of the outside diameter as possible. You can always try a push cut with your Ellsworth gouge.

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#15 posted 09-28-2021 10:42 PM

As to the direction of cutting. Kent, here has a great explanation of what most are trying to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRC0NW4R7gA

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