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Forum topic by NoWhiskeyWoodworking posted 09-23-2021 01:43 AM 289 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NoWhiskeyWoodworking

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09-23-2021 01:43 AM

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So, I know if one is making a salad bowl, one would want a non-toxic finish because… well, salad and veggies and dressing will be in the bowl getting slopped around and then eaten.

But…

if you were making a little wooden bowl that was going to be used to serve pistachios still in the shell, would it be okay to use lacquer or poly?

I mean, I know they are edible, but they are in the shell and will only sit in the bowl until someone plucks one, shells it, and eats it.

Yes, sometimes a pistachio does come out of its shell and would sit on the bottom of the bowl… do you think that’s an issue?

If lacquer or poly are an issue, what would you recommend for the interior of the bowl?

-- Van "If you're looking for perfection, don't look here."


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Sycamoray

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#1 posted 09-23-2021 02:06 AM

No, it’s not an issue. In fact, poly is not an issue on salad bowls, provided you give it time to cure before throwing lettuce into it. The notion of “salad bowl finish” is a figment of some marketing person’s imagination.

Use almost any finish, just be sure to give it generous time to cure. Depending on weather, I usually double the time it says on the can.

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NoWhiskeyWoodworking

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#2 posted 09-23-2021 02:15 AM

Good to know! Thank you.


No, it’s not an issue. In fact, poly is not an issue on salad bowls, provided you give it time to cure before throwing lettuce into it. The notion of “salad bowl finish” is a figment of some marketing person’s imagination.

Use almost any finish, just be sure to give it generous time to cure. Depending on weather, I usually double the time it says on the can.

- Sycamoray


-- Van "If you're looking for perfection, don't look here."

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Lazyman

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#3 posted 09-23-2021 02:38 AM

I know that most people say that any non-pigmented finish is food safe when cured but personally, I like Tried and True Varnish oil for food contact bowls and utensils. It is heat polymerized linseed oil and a natural resin. Original Tried and True is the linseed oil and beeswax. Also, for something like a nut bowl that would never be submerged to be washed, shellac is food safe (shellac is actually used in some foods).

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NoWhiskeyWoodworking

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#4 posted 09-23-2021 02:58 AM

Is True Varnish a possible Lowes or Home Depot purchase?


I know that most people say that any non-pigmented finish is food safe when cured but personally, I like Tried and True Varnish oil for food contact bowls and utensils. It is heat polymerized linseed oil and a natural resin. Original Tried and True is the linseed oil and beeswax. Also, for something like a nut bowl that would never be submerged to be washed, shellac is food safe (shellac is actually used in some foods).

- Lazyman


-- Van "If you're looking for perfection, don't look here."

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#5 posted 09-23-2021 03:07 AM

I’ve never seen it at HD or Lowes. I usually get it at Woodcraft or Rockler but I’ve order it from Amazon too. I think you can get it on the T&T website as well.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#6 posted 09-23-2021 03:43 AM

I like food grade mineral oil and bees wax, heated and blended together. Then buffed. I provide a half cup bottle for people to heat up in the Microwave and touch up whenever necessary. I buy the bees wax from a local bee keeper.

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#7 posted 09-23-2021 04:21 AM

Well… here is the thing… ALL finishes in the United States are food safe after fully curing. It is the Law.

This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. People will say ‘food-safe finish.’ When really what we are talking about is a finish that is more easily restored. Especially by the buyer of the ware. This means, mineral/walnut oils, can be easily used by anyone to restore the woodenware after use.

Urethane’s, Lacquers, and the like can be used because they are also…”food safe.” After they have been cured. The problem comes when the finish either gets worn or chipped. Now, the owner of the ware… probably can’t restore that kind of finish. I could… but I wouldn’t want to… that is a pain. So, we use the term “food safe.”

I personally mix Mineral Oil, Beeswax, and a touch of raw Carnauba wax in a double boiler and rub that on as my finish if the bowl is going to be used for food purposes.

Okay, rant is over. Thank you.

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#8 posted 09-23-2021 05:01 AM

Good advice above.

However, if I were to take off my woodworker hat and put on my cook’s hat….

Salad preparation bowls are traditionally unfinished. The reason is that the classic vinaigrette prep involves using the fresh sliced face of a garlic clove to wipe around the bowl to flavor it. If the bowl has a film finish, that’ll have zero affect.

With an unfinished bowl, the garlic will add just the degree of flavor that’s considered ideal, and completing the vinaigrette in that bowl will produce a delicious result.

With care, that bowl will be one that your children will cherish.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 09-23-2021 06:32 AM

The only thing I wouldn’t put poly or other film finish on is if you were cutting. Cutting boards, cheese slicer boards etc. If you aren’t going to be chopping the salad or nuts then use whatever you like.

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NoWhiskeyWoodworking

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#10 posted 09-23-2021 10:47 AM

Super informative advice, everyone. Thank you!

-- Van "If you're looking for perfection, don't look here."

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#11 posted 09-23-2021 03:27 PM

Van – It’s good information, but if you’re considering salad bowls made of burls or fungal growths, think about the voids or embedded contamination.

-- You know, this site doesn't require woodworking skills, but you should know how to write.

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NoWhiskeyWoodworking

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#12 posted 09-23-2021 03:39 PM

I agree, Phil. I think this thing I’m working on might end up just being a keys/change catch-all.


Van – It s good information, but if you re considering salad bowls made of burls or fungal growths, think about the voids or embedded contamination.

- Phil32


-- Van "If you're looking for perfection, don't look here."

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