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Forum topic by ibewjon posted 09-21-2021 01:24 PM 391 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ibewjon

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09-21-2021 01:24 PM

I recently purchased a shop fox mortiser. The question is what bits to buy for a home shop. Fisch are probably great bits, but more than I care to invest for a home shop. So I see CMT, Woodcraft, and Grizzly bits as options. Anyone out there with experience using any or all of these different brands? This will be occasional usage. In the future I plan to do some projects using ash. Thanks for your ideas.


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recycle1943

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#1 posted 09-21-2021 01:37 PM

I found out a long time ago that buying the least expensive anything isn’t always the right solution. Disposable tools end up being pretty expensive especially if you have an immediate use and it isn’t up to par. Mid range priceing for occasional use will probably work for quite a while.

-- Dick, Malvern Ohio - my biggest fear is that when I die, my wife sells my toys for what I told her I paid for them

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#2 posted 09-21-2021 02:31 PM

I bought bits from Lee Valley. Work great for occasional use. The diamond sharpening cones are worth the investment.

-- Sawdust Maker

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ibewjon

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#3 posted 09-21-2021 03:26 PM

I agree that cheap is not the best investment. The lee valley compared to CMT is probably where I will go, just waiting for more opinions. The $100+ per fisch bit is not really an option for a full set. Maybe spring for the 3/8” and possibly the 1/2” if I get a project that needs it. Thanks.

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#4 posted 09-21-2021 06:33 PM

This is one rare area where all the bits are about equal, regardless of price.
With diamond pocket sharpeners and cone sharpeners of various sizes, I get my cheap mortising chisels cutting like a razor. I’ve used Woodcraft, Jet, Harbor Freight, Grizzly etc. and they all cut about the same. The Jet’s were very expensive at the time and they were the only ones where the tips of the chisel bent over.

Good luck deciding. Just make sure to get the right size collar. Some machines take 5/8” and some take 3/4” diameter bit shanks.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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ibewjon

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#5 posted 09-21-2021 07:30 PM

Thanks for the heads up on the shank, but the machine came with an adapter. I will probably get a cheaper set to practice set up, the get a mid grade for the couple I plan to use the most.

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JackDuren

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#6 posted 09-21-2021 08:36 PM

I have to buy a 3/8 jet chisel now. It ain’t tye end of the world in cost. Figure what you will probably need and buy a good one. Buying a cheap set may have a reverse effect, you may hate mortising…

Most likely you will use the 1/4 the most.

A mortiser to me isn’t really a practice tool…

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#7 posted 09-22-2021 05:56 PM


Thanks for the heads up on the shank, but the machine came with an adapter. I will probably get a cheaper set to practice set up, the get a mid grade for the couple I plan to use the most.

- ibewjon

I offer the exact same info about router bits, and drill bits. MOST people do NOT benefit from a set, HOWEVER sellers seem to get the best margin on them, so they offer them first, and foremost.

If you use primarily 3/4” stock, just get a 3/8” mortise bit/chisel. Fisch is the best for a lot of reasons Primarily this IS a mortising machine, doesn’t matter HF through Powermatic machines are just a lever to make the bit/chisel work. Having an excellent bit/chisel is the key to success part 1. Part 2 is using correct honing stones to keep them sharp.

-- Think safe, be safe

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Jhwill

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#8 posted 09-26-2021 12:22 AM



I bought bits from Lee Valley. Work great for occasional use. The diamond sharpening cones are worth the investment.

- LittleShaver


This is what I did for my Rikon, Lee Valley bits and sharpening cones made it go from average to a very good mortiser.

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CaptainKlutz

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#9 posted 09-26-2021 06:08 PM

+1 Use a sharpening cone!

Bought a used Delta Mortiser ages ago. Came with a set of bits. All except one, was still in original card board boxes and never used. The unused bits would not cut butter, much less wood. Used stone sharpening cone on the chisels, and it fixed issue. Sold that machine during a move.
Bought a used one cheap last year. Same problem, bits cut like carp until properly sharpened.
IMHO – must use sharpening cone on the chisels if you want mortiser to work well.
The auger drill bits are easy to sharpen with small stone or flat diamond file.

+1 All low/mid priced sets are about same. Bought replacement 1/4-3/8” and larger 5/8 & 3/4 bits over years. The CMT, Lee Valley, and old Delta behave same in my limited use?

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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