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Forum topic by WAGGY posted 09-18-2021 11:35 PM 249 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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WAGGY

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09-18-2021 11:35 PM

Topic tags/keywords: modern

My old King-Seeley, #103.23130, might be ready for salvage because it makes a rattle when starting, and comes up to speed rather sllowly. Does this symptom sound like bearings are shot? I haven’t tried to drill any work yet, being
afraid that the drill wouldn’t have enough power. I have never worked inside of the Drill Head Frame, but the parts
list shows a Quill Ball Bearing and I wonder if this might be a standard size bearing that is still available? Any info
or suggestions would be appreciated, so that I can avoid another tool purchase. At my age, I don’t even buy
green bananas anymore.:-(


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Kudzupatch

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#1 posted 09-19-2021 12:00 AM

I would bet the bearings are worn out. I don’t know that model # but I have 2 King Seally’s in my shop. Probably the same press and no way would I give them up!

Haven’t had to replace the bearings but but did do a restoration on one and just using the other as-is.

As for bearings it is extremely rare for bearings not be off the shelf items. It is much cheaper to use existing bearings than have them custom made. I designed machines for many years and we always used standard bearings. I am 99% sure these are standard sized bearings.

Best thing is just pull it apart and then measure the bearings. If you are lucky you will find a number and brand on them There are many places you can buy bearings online and they are typically pretty cheap.

-- Jeff Horton * Kudzu Craft skin boats* www.kudzucraft.com

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Clarkie

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#2 posted 09-19-2021 11:02 AM

Hello Waggy, it might just be a simple fix here. A friend had a brand new drill press that would do the same thing, he was ready to kick it to the curb. I went over flipped the switch and knew right away what had happened, the pulley on the motor shaft had lost it’s set screw and while it would turn the quill it made a rattling sound and would slow down when pressure was applied. Hope this is what is going on with yours, make some saw dust, have fun, Clarkie.

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Kudzupatch

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#3 posted 09-19-2021 01:26 PM



Hello Waggy, it might just be a simple fix here. .....

He may be on to something. I focused on the idea of bad bearings but slow to come up to speed isn’t a bad bearing symptom. Does sound like a loose belt of possibly a loose pulley.

-- Jeff Horton * Kudzu Craft skin boats* www.kudzucraft.com

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Woodnmetal

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#4 posted 09-19-2021 03:42 PM

If it was a backed out set screw on the pully, which happens all the time if equipped with aluminum pullies. A little “Blue lock tite” can be used if that’s the case. That’s the best place to start looking as mentioned.
A worn/glazed/slipping belt would be of suspect as well.
Sounds of a bad bearing should be a clicking noise as you push up/pull down on the chuck turning it by hand.

Gary

-- I haven't changed... but I know I'm not the same.

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Francisco Luna

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#5 posted 09-19-2021 03:54 PM

I have an old Dunlap, same story with different tag name….It seems to me the problem could be the motor?
probably it needs a new motor, or a good used one..
Where are you located Waggy if you don’t mind I ask…..would love to help

-- "Menos es mas" Ludwing Mies Van Der Rohe

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Woodnmetal

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#6 posted 09-19-2021 06:41 PM

It could also be the “vari-slow” option if equipped. Depending on how many times the speed was adjusted without running.. Those old motors were hard to kill.

-- I haven't changed... but I know I'm not the same.

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MrUnix

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#7 posted 09-19-2021 06:55 PM

If it’s bearings, then they are seizing up, which would be the only reason for a slow start – so easy to check. Take the belt off and spin the chuck by hand. With good bearings, it should spin a revolution or three and stop as the grease in them won’t let them free spin. If it’s hard to spin, or it spins forever after giving it a twirl, then you need new bearings in the head. Ditto with the motor.

Easy diagnostic and won’t cost you anything.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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WAGGY

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#8 posted 10-05-2021 01:47 AM

Sorry for the delay to all who answered my post on 9/18. Woodturning might be a fun hobby, but I should have started learning before I got into the mid 80’s.:-( Getting distracted is slowing me down, but the girls that I hang out
with, don’t mind too much.

Thanks Clarkie and Jeff. The drive belt was slipping, but set screw is tight. The motor is still strong. Those boys knew
how to make long lasting tools 70+ years ago.

I appreciate all of the thoughtful replys that were posted. This is a great web site!

Waggy in AZ – Stay on the right side of the grass

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