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09-07-2021 08:36 PM

My wife, recently retired from the operating room, has learned to cut awesome hand cut dovetails, will never use a table saw and wants her own personal router cabinet, so I’m going to make her one. I’ve already got her a router lift and router to go in it.

I don’t won’t to make her a fence so your suggestions please on one that she can use with easy and accuracy.

Thanks in advance.

-- Bruce Free Plans & Calculators https://traditionalwoodworking.org


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#1 posted 09-07-2021 09:45 PM

Incra.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#2 posted 09-07-2021 09:58 PM



Incra.

- Madmark2


+1. They have several different models.

-- Woodworking is like a vicious cycle. The more tools you buy the more you find to buy.

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#3 posted 09-08-2021 06:04 AM

Depends on projects and goals?

IMHO – ALL the commercial fences stink in one way or another? DIY is better.

Here are my opinions for your entertainment (useless otherwise):

- None of the commercial fences are tall enough for true molding work.
Most are limited to < 3” of support, and are horrible to use with 6-8 in tall molding planks with tall ( greater than 2”) profile bit.

- All of the fences I have used (Rockler, Peachtree, Kreg, Excaliper, and Jessem) with single extruded length of angle aluminum will bend. They do not stay 90° to table top; especially when pushing 8/4 planks against the fence. The Jessem and Excaliper are slightly better than others, but both have a open slot on bottom at corner, and that allows the vertical portion to bend – unless you install filler strip in slot.

-Jessem, Excaliper, Kreg; fences slide along and clamp to the outside edges of table top. This forces a table top design same size as the commercial tops. Commercial tops are not wide enough for large projects. If you want serious router table for cabinet panels or molding work, need min 18-20” on both sides of the bit.

Have Peachtree Supreme and WoodPecker Supreme fence in shop right now.

Love the design of Peachtree extrusion, but the execution is lacking. The wimpy angle aluminum mounting has bent and needed shims to be 90° to table. The HDPE fence inserts expand/contract at different rate then aluminum. Some days they are higher than the fence, other days they are lower. This only impacts pieces taller than 2” insert, but shimming for tall stuff is no fun, so I add tall sub-fence to avoid them.

Woodpecker fence is more robust at keeping 90°; but dust collection port angle drives me nuts. The angle stinks unless you have over head DC pipe. They also added side vent ports, that combined with gaps from the fence slots; means end up with swarf all over the back of table, unless you use a large shop vacuum. Wished they offered a larger 3/4” OD dust port so I could use normal DC system. The Wood pecker dual aluminum extrusion design with robust angle brackets is my current favorite of the commercial options.

Don’t like the table top space required for Incra Precision Fences. If you have room for a big router table, I’m happy for you. At one point I have a PM shaper with Incra Wonder fence, and really liked the dust collection port at end of fence, but it was too small for big cuts on the shaper. The high rise portion of Wonder fence will move if pushed hard, but rigidity is not an issue with a full length tall sub-fence board attached between upper/lower mounts. Suppose dust collection would work well with router bits and taking off small cuts each pass?
FWIW – See that Incra website is listing 20+ week lead times on many items, so if decide to buy Incra; it won’t be an X-Mas present.

Best Luck (picking your least objectionable fence choice).

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#4 posted 09-08-2021 04:54 PM

I made my cabinet with drawers and made my fence too. it’s great and was not as hard as fitting drawers!

If I had to buy one< i think i’d make it from extruded aluminum channels, joined at right angles, face w MDF. Done.

-- Mike from Lansdowne, PA

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#5 posted 09-08-2021 05:59 PM

Never mind

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#6 posted 09-08-2021 06:01 PM

I vote Incra….use it myself

-- Ron

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#7 posted 09-09-2021 05:42 AM

Thanks guys for your input. She’s looking at the Incra, Kreg and MLCS. I think she’ll probably go with the Incra

I look at this way, her router table and her fence, but will make recommendations to her. I’ve got her a Kreg lift like mine and a 3/1’4 Vs PC router like mine sitting in their boxes waiting on her to make up her mind about a fence.

Once she gets that all figured out, then I’ll build her a cabinet. I’ll let you know and how it works out for her.

Thanks again for your input.

-- Bruce Free Plans & Calculators https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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#8 posted 09-09-2021 01:37 PM

I like the one I bought from Infinity.

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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#9 posted 09-13-2021 09:22 PM

Well, after much debate in my wife’s mind over a router table fence for herself, we visited a woodworker over the weekend that had one of those Incra fences that had everything on it I think except an outhouse. He spent a couple of hours with her explaining how it works and then she used it and loved it. So, it’s on order.

That fence makes my homemade fence look like an old worn our antique whisky barrel that would even scare a ghost.

I’ll put up a review on it when it gets here and when we get it setup and she uses it for awhile.

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I’m broke again.

-- Bruce Free Plans & Calculators https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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#10 posted 09-14-2021 02:21 AM

Trust me, it’s worth it.

I have an M1000 miter gauge with 36” shop stop for crosscuts.
The TS-LS III for rips & is shared with router. I have a shop made split fence that slides on the TS-LS III fence. I have the incra router table wing for the saw, as well as their T-rule squares in 6”, 12”, & 18”, plus a pair of their 12” inside rules (one for the shop, one for the CAD station.) It’s all gold anodized ‘cause it costs gold! LOL

But seriously, accurate tools make for precise mistakes. If I cut something short, it’s EXACTLY 1.000” short.

The Incra gear moved me from a good kitchen cab builder (holding 1/8” or better) to a precision craftsman, routinely holding 1/32” +-0.002”.

I also have a Wixey DRO on the planer, a Wixey angle cube, digital 8” calipers, and a Digital Height Indicator for bit setting.

In manufacturing you want you measuring tools at least 2X (preferably 10X) tighter than the accuracy you need to hold.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#11 posted 09-14-2021 06:02 AM



Trust me, it s worth it.

I have an M1000 miter gauge with 36” shop stop for crosscuts.
The TS-LS III for rips & is shared with router. I have a shop made split fence that slides on the TS-LS III fence. I have the incra router table wing for the saw, as well as their T-rule squares in 6”, 12”, & 18”, plus a pair of their 12” inside rules (one for the shop, one for the CAD station.) It s all gold anodized cause it costs gold! LOL

But seriously, accurate tools make for precise mistakes. If I cut something short, it s EXACTLY 1.000” short.

The Incra gear moved me from a good kitchen cab builder (holding 1/8” or better) to a precision craftsman, routinely holding 1/32” +-0.002”.

I also have a Wixey DRO on the planer, a Wixey angle cube, digital 8” calipers, and a Digital Height Indicator for bit setting.

In manufacturing you want you measuring tools at least 2X (preferably 10X) tighter than the accuracy you need to hold.

- Madmark2

Thanks for your reply, and I enjoyed reading it. My wife is a very meticulous person and her woodworking ambitions are to build Chippendale and Shaker style furniture. I think I knew the whole time she was trying to make a decision for her fence it would probably end up being this fence. She just needed to be able to walk in a shop somewhere and see it work in real time and spend some time using it.

It’s expensive for sure, she deserves it and it’s been ordered. Now, I’ve got to come up with some different plans to build the cabinet and top for it and need to get it done this week.

Thanks all again for your replies. She read everyone of them.

-- Bruce Free Plans & Calculators https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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#12 posted 09-15-2021 04:04 PM

Hi. Glad she went with the Incra. I have the Incra table with all the goodies including the lift. I use mine primarily for edge jointing as this way it can serve dual purpose of edge jointing, edge routing, and everything else I can throw at it. She won’t be disappointed.

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#13 posted 09-15-2021 07:17 PM

You think that was expensive? Wait until you’ve spent over $1000 on carbide bits! Tell her carbide is the best for exotic hardwoods with high silica content. She’s not going to be happy working with softer hardwoods for long! LOL

Get exotics HERE at Craftsmen Supply in Tampa (they ship), tell ‘em MadMark sent you

Have her look at the Fast-Joint system for use with her router table. Review HERE

With a router & exotics you can make stuff like THIS


Fast-Joint & exotics box.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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#14 posted 09-16-2021 10:00 AM



Trust me, it s worth it.

I have an M1000 miter gauge with 36” shop stop for crosscuts.
The TS-LS III for rips & is shared with router. I have a shop made split fence that slides on the TS-LS III fence. I have the incra router table wing for the saw, as well as their T-rule squares in 6”, 12”, & 18”, plus a pair of their 12” inside rules (one for the shop, one for the CAD station.) It s all gold anodized cause it costs gold! LOL

But seriously, accurate tools make for precise mistakes. If I cut something short, it s EXACTLY 1.000” short.

- Madmark2

I so wish I had no idea what you’re talking about, precisely cutting 1/000” short!

My fence is an old Saw Train; very much like an Incra and I love it. She and you will be very happy.

-- David

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