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Douglas!

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08-04-2021 12:16 AM

So I was in need of a plane and I was browsing the home depot website, when I saw this plane
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Stanley-Sweetheart-No-4-10-5-8-in-Smoothing-Bench-Plane-12-136/203713965
And I wanna know, what could POSSIBLY make a plane worth more than 250$???


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#1 posted 08-04-2021 12:57 AM

Claims to be a better than a Bailey style. Some mixed reviews on it. For that price tag I think I would go with a Veritas instead. Also being made in Mexico I doubt the quality control is the same as Veritas

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#2 posted 08-04-2021 01:01 AM

well thats just supply and demand and covid making everyone and their mother become a woodworker. Collectibility and/or quality like Lie Nielsen or Veritas or other premium brands would make them worth FAR more then only $250

if you want cheap, buy the $30 one at Harbor Freight and spend the time tubing it and fettling and in a few hours you will have a somewhat decent plane. plenty of videos on Youtube how to tune those.

personally Iwould buy an older one back when they were made well:

https://www.jimbodetools.com/collections/whats-new/products/stanley-no-4-smooth-plane-fine-99413

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Douglas!

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#3 posted 08-04-2021 01:05 AM



well thats just supply and demand and covid making everyone and their mother become a woodworker. Collectibility and/or quality like Lie Nielsen or Veritas or other premium brands would make them worth FAR more then only $250

if you want cheap, buy the $30 one at Harbor Freight and spend the time tubing it and fettling and in a few hours you will have a somewhat decent plane. plenty of videos on Youtube how to tune those.

- SMP


Well I do want cheap, and funny enough, as I read that I was actually browsing the harbor freight website haha

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#4 posted 08-04-2021 01:51 AM

See what Don has for sale over at timetestedtools.net. Most of his planes are ready to go to work. If you want cheap get an old craftsman and tune it up. They don’t go for as much as the Stanley’s.

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#5 posted 08-04-2021 02:34 AM

I’ve seen those Stanley planes at rockler. I thought they were oddly over sized and clunky
I wouldn’t recommend anything less then a Lie Neilson plane.
That what I use
Good Luck

-- Aj

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#6 posted 08-04-2021 03:53 AM

The tote and knob are made of wood

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SMP

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#7 posted 08-04-2021 04:17 AM



The tote and knob are made of wood

- hotbyte

yep, if the tote is made from 2×4s then thats a couple hundred right there.

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#8 posted 08-04-2021 04:22 AM


And I wanna know, what could POSSIBLY make a plane worth more than 250$???

- Douglas!

I guess it’s not worth anywhere near that since Woodcraft sells it for $189.99.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#9 posted 08-04-2021 04:30 AM



And I wanna know, what could POSSIBLY make a plane worth more than 250$???
- Douglas!

I don’t see a cord, so it’s probably the cost of batteries.

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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#10 posted 08-04-2021 05:18 AM

If i was going to buy a plane for that price it would have to have Lie Nielson, Varitas or Wood River on it.

-- Bruce Free Plans & Calculators https://traditionalwoodworking.org

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#11 posted 08-04-2021 08:00 AM

Doug, I’ve been on a search for a few high value planes. Stanley’s! I’ve finished my search. Home depot is the last place I ever thought of searching? Made in China is an affront to ms of us.

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tvrgeek

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#12 posted 08-04-2021 10:30 AM

‘Worth” to whom? Do not confuse cost and worth. For what use? A fine #5 for cabinet working or a #4 you want in your toolbox for on-site hacking a bit here and there?

Is a well made plane, Veritas, Lie-Neilson, Primus, etc. better than a Buck,Grizzly, HF? To most of us, yes. Better iron, easier to tune. Feels better in the hand. Some differences in iron alloy, air or oil cooled, as a preference. Tuning a Bedrock design is easier than a Bailey design. ( Some just have several Baileys with the frog preset, so they don’t adjust) Do you have to have one to do a good job? No. I have Hock irons in my old Bailey’s and they do the job. One is a modified Handyman into a scrub plane and it is getting to be a favorite. ( From our saw and plane guru friend Mr. Black)

Odd, I don’t know why, but Hock ( source for good irons) really disparaged the Sweethearts. As I am cheap, I went Wood River for my last plane. Finish is not quite L-N level, but function seems to be.

My next plane will be another block plane. Not that I have any complaints with my Sears/ Hock iron, but I want one for rough and one for fine work. Bought a Taylor bull-noise and a Chinese dog-tooth router. Both seem to work.

Wise to be frugal, not wise to be cheap. Cheap is usually expensive as you buy again. Do note, most people buy a #4 first when they really should get a #5. FWIW, I see the Sweetheart #4 for about $170 on several sites, in-stock. HD is NOT cheap. The WoodRiver #5 is $220.

A deal: The Bridge City plane was $1100 and is on sale for $800.

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#13 posted 08-04-2021 10:35 AM

Anyone heard of Juuma planes? Look like Bedrock pattern

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#14 posted 08-04-2021 10:47 AM

Another thought. If you are asking this, then you are new. The best plane is a sharp plane.
So, go buy a Horrible Freight #4, learn how to sharpen and tune it. It will teach you what you need. Eventually you will want the good plan(s) but it is handy to keep an old POS around for hacking up through knots, grit or other horrible things like floorboards that may have a nail hidden.

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#15 posted 08-04-2021 11:43 AM

I used to have one of these. I purchased it used on ebay for $75. I couldn’t wait to get rid of it. It was the biggest POS I’ve ever seen.

-- Woodworking is like a vicious cycle. The more tools you buy the more you find to buy.

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