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07-20-2021 01:42 PM

I was hoping some of you might be able to help me with a wood ID question. I had a small tree I cut down from my yard a while ago, since it was dying and entangled in a healthy hackberry tree. I was pretty sure it was pecan, but when I finally milled it up and planed one piece, it seems so much yellower and shinier than what I can find for pictures of pecan. I’m in Hillsborough, NC, and we have a lot of black walnut, hackberry, and pecan trees around here. Unfortunately I don’t have much first hand experience with it in person and this is the first time I’ve milled what I thought to be pecan.

(this pic shows the color well)

Here’s a closup of the wood, though the the color doesn’t really convey in the photo:

What do y’all think – is this Pecan, or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for your help!


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#1 posted 07-20-2021 01:56 PM

I don’t think so.

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#2 posted 07-20-2021 02:26 PM

Mulberry perhaps? They tend to be “deposited” by birds in similar places to hackberry. Pecan is not usually that yellow. Mulberry heartwood starts off yellow like that and turns brown as it ages. Set a piece out in the sun for an hour and if it turns brown, it is probably mulberry. Leaves of pecan are pretty distinctive as are mulberry so if you remember the shape of the leaves, that will be the best way to tell.

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#3 posted 07-20-2021 03:11 PM

It looks like yellow hart. or osage orange,
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#4 posted 07-20-2021 03:37 PM

Not Pecan. My vote is for Osage Orange. Mulberry is a good possibility too. I lean to Osage though because of the very narrow and clearly demarcated sapwood.

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#5 posted 07-20-2021 04:47 PM

If the color of that first picture is close, it is mulberry. Osage orange can be pretty yellow, but just after it is cut, mulberry is that yellow ranging down to shades of Mountain Dew.

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#6 posted 07-20-2021 06:08 PM

I really appreciate the responses. Honestly, I didn’t even guess mulberry, but it does look like the bark matches the rougher versions of the bark that I see online, like the pic below. When I took down the tree, it was mostly dead, so there were not many leaves left and I didn’t take a look. I’ll do the sun test tomorrow and see if it turns brown. It’s stayed golden yellow so far, but it has been kept out of the sun. Also, I’ll re-check the density. When I checked it last, I got 56-lb/ft3, at a moisture reading of ~50%, but my moisture reading may not have been accurate.

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#7 posted 07-20-2021 06:26 PM

I’m going to say Cherry. The pic clearly has bee’s wings (Ray flecks, or flakes) on the face grain, like you would see with QS Cherry, or Sycamore. It’s wrong for Sycamore, but Cherry has a huge color spectrum, and unless exposed to sunlight, it can stay light to yellow for a while. As Nathan mentioned about the Mulberry sun will darken it quickly.

It could be Mulberry also has bee’s wings, but if so Hobbit House doesn’t have a pic of them. But they do have some listed as QS, Looks pretty generic. I have zero experience with Mulberry, so I can’t positively say.

http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/mulberry.htm

Now for American Black Cherry you see the bee’s wings right from the start.

http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/cherry,%20american%20black.htm

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#8 posted 07-20-2021 06:38 PM

Looking just at the second photo, I would have said Bradford Pear due to the color and the bee’s wings. But I’ve had lots of it and never any with anywhere near the color shown in the first picture.

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#9 posted 07-20-2021 09:29 PM

Cherry is what I have the most of. If you were cutting it and not smelling… CHERRY, like a cherry pie in the oven dripping down on the bottom and burning a bit, then it’s probably not cherry. But I agree that some of the quarter-sawn figure looks like cherry.

Small cherry trees (and branches) have smooth silvery bark with darker rough patches. As it gets bigger, the bark get’s rougher.

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#10 posted 07-21-2021 11:15 AM

Definitely looks like mulberry. All the mulberry I have worked with has that chatoyance to it, as shown in you image and you mention as shiny. It does seam to brown rather quickly in the sun and lose the yellow colors.

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#11 posted 07-21-2021 11:26 AM

Looks like cherry that I’ve milled up before but I’ve never milled mulberry or pecan so not sure about those.

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#12 posted 07-21-2021 12:56 PM

Not pecan (which has a look of hickory, a tree it’s closely related to).

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#13 posted 07-25-2021 05:19 AM

I’d say its a BOOMBY... Branch Out Of My Back Yard!

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#14 posted 07-26-2021 01:57 AM

Osage Orange. Put it in the sun and see if it darkens quickly. If it holds the bright yellow for long, then it might not be Osage Orange.

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