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Forum topic by AandCstyle posted 06-24-2021 09:40 PM 562 views 0 times favorited 16 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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AandCstyle

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06-24-2021 09:40 PM

Hello to everyone! I haven’t posted much because I ran out of projects. Recently, a neighbor has started making and selling stained glass artwork. She asked me to make frames for some of her pieces. Here are a few samples of our combined efforts:

I am currently working on a round frame with a 22” ID and 25.5” outside diameter made with zebra wood. This would not have been my first choice of wood but she is the artist and my client. My question is should I fill the grain? I plan to use Deft spray lacquer and paste wax for the finish which gives a great feel but I am concerned that the roughness caused by the voids (see the black spots in the pix) will detract from the final product. I realize that most people don’t touch frames so maybe I am overthinking it.

As a follow-up question, if you suggest filling the grain, what product do you recommend. Thanks.

-- Art


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pintodeluxe

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#1 posted 06-24-2021 09:49 PM

Texture is good on frames. I say don’t fill.

Nice work!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#2 posted 06-24-2021 09:50 PM

I’ve used Rockler Wunderfill Black to decent effect. Dilute it 50-50 with water, I think (it suggests a ratio on the container). Test on a small scrap first, but looking at it, I would lean toward a darker grain-fill.

-- Dave - Santa Fe

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splintergroup

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#3 posted 06-24-2021 10:42 PM

Art is BACK! 8^)

Nice work buddy! Kind of like that Monty Python skit “confuse a cat”. A cat had lost all interest (curiosity) and was moping around. They performed some very weird acts in front of the can until it had enough and ran away to figure it all out. A lot like your lack of “fun” projects (but I degress!)

I use “Aqua Coat” filler, there are a few varieties, but it is water based and quite clear. Reminds me of that yummy Elmers paste from grade school, but applies great on the smaller projects I used it for.

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oldrivers

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#4 posted 06-25-2021 12:43 AM

Good project, great workmanship.

-- Soli Deo gloria!

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pottz

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#5 posted 06-25-2021 12:47 AM

im with pinto,id leave it as is.

-- working with my hands is a joy,it gives me a sense of fulfillment,somthing so many seek and so few find.-SAM MALOOF.

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Eric

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#6 posted 06-25-2021 01:17 AM

Great looking frames, and Wonderful stained glass, makes a beautiful combination. I think the grain texture will add the right touch for the finished product.

-- Eric, building the dream

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Madmark2

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#7 posted 06-25-2021 05:50 AM

Don’t fill. Zebrawood has voids. Eliminate the voids, its no longer zebrawood.


Zebrawood wall clock.

-- The hump with the stump and the pump!

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AandCstyle

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#8 posted 06-25-2021 11:11 AM

Thanks for the replies and the compliments. There were two votes for filling the grain and four for leaving the wood in its natural state. I was leaning toward filling the grain and even ordered Aqua Coat from Amazon but you have talked me out of doing it. I will post this as a project once it is complete with the glass artwork.

-- Art

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Lazyman

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#9 posted 06-25-2021 12:08 PM

Another vote for don’t fill but if you do I would use a dyed filler of some kind or CA. Adding something like a turquoise powder or dye might look pretty cool.

BTW, did you use splines to reinforce the joints? On the round frame in particular, I would be a little worried about the end grain glue joints if you didn’t, especially considering the weight of the glass and lead.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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AandCstyle

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#10 posted 06-25-2021 12:18 PM

Nathan, I used dominoes for all the joints.

-- Art

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builtinbkyn

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#11 posted 06-25-2021 03:25 PM

As always, nice work Art! I haven’t posted much either, but not because of lack of projects. I’ve just been enjoying freedom again :)

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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James E McIntyre

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#12 posted 06-26-2021 04:54 PM

Perfect frames and miters Art.

How do you get such perfect joints?

-- James E McIntyre

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AandCstyle

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#13 posted 06-26-2021 09:55 PM

Bill, I know what you mean. It feels wonderful to be able to travel and walk into shops without masks and all that bother.

James, thank you. Naturally, I set the angles as close as I can with my Incra miter gauge, cut some samples from scrap and check them against an accurate square. I actually made a complete circle from scrap for the zebra wood frame to ensure that my miters were good enough for the next step. I cut the zebra wood segments and clamped them together with a band clamp while they were resting on a piece of scrap plywood. Then I clamped two segments to the plywood if there was a gap between them and removed the band clamp and used a backsaw to saw between them thereby removing the gap. Depending on the size of the gap and the kerf of your saw, you might need to do this more than once for each pair of segments that have a gap between them. You need to reclamp after each time you cut between a pair. The scrap plywood allows you to make the cuts without cutting into your workbench. This will very slightly decrease your inside or outside diameter depending on if your miters are over or under perfect so allow for this by making your segments slightly wider than necessary. I hope this is understandable as I have explained it but, if not, let me know and I will try to clarify it.

This was a FWW tip many years ago which has been worth the price of the magazine to me.

-- Art

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James E McIntyre

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#14 posted 06-27-2021 04:22 PM

Thanks Art. Your tip was very helpful and explained clearly.

The stained glass work is great. Wish I had a neighbor who did glass work. I’m planning on making more lights for our home and need to add leaded glass to them.

-- James E McIntyre

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sras

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#15 posted 06-27-2021 10:15 PM

Art – good to see what you’re up to!

-- Steve - Impatience is Expensive

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