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Forum topic by Kev21 posted 06-22-2021 12:35 PM 394 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kev21

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06-22-2021 12:35 PM

Hello , I have a Powermatic model 15 Planer made in 2000 and I’m upgrading to a byrd shelix head and from what I’ve seen on the ordering page if your machine is older than 2006 you will need a new oil seal.
I got the shelix head from the Grizzly site , it was $200 cheaper than getting it from Byrd.
They do not sell the seal needed so if anybody here knows about this seal please let me know.
I tried calling powermatic but took forever and I gave up.
I also tried finding info about this online but nothing is coming up , nobody lists the specs on this seal .
Thanks.


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#1 posted 06-22-2021 08:53 PM

Welcome to Lumberjocks

Post sounds fishy. I know Grizzly stock and sells right size oil seal? But you do need to do ground work, and know the Grizzly PN. Grizzly parts will not help you use Grizzly parts on other machines.

PM15 (such as PN 1791209) manuals and parts are easy to find. Need to use the 7 digit stock number to find right manual and parts list for your machine. WMH/Jet/PM all sell parts from same warehouse with same numbers.

You will need more than just the PN 6284843 (TC 28-40-8) oil seal for cutter head. More than likely need a new gear box gasket PN 6284846 too.

IMHO – while you have gear box open, might as well replace both oil seals, one on cutter head and chain drive side oil seal PN 6284860 (SC 25-47-6).

Be careful opening the gear box. There are some small parts inside that easy to lose. Especially the small spring and ball bearing inside speed selector shaft.

The oil seals are very common. Used on Ford/Mazda transmission output shafts. Most auto parts have them in stock.
Gear box Gasket needs to come from PM/Jet, or have to figure which Grizzly model uses same one. There are several threads on 15” planer rebuilds, where compatibility information is posted. Just don’t remember where I posted it right now. :)

Best Luck.

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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#2 posted 06-23-2021 04:32 AM

Thanks for the reply, I will have to wait and get the byrd head in and measure the id on the shaft and the od on the gearbox .
After 2006 they changed either the head shaft diameter or the od on the gearbox so a new seal won’t work .
If I’m wrong please let me know.
Thanks.

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#3 posted 06-23-2021 06:36 AM

Newest 15” planer I have rebuilt was 1999 AMT model. Can not help with post 2000 stuff.

Have never had a problem finding parts information from manuals. Get one for your 7 digit stock number if want to know OEM parts.

IME -The parts compatibility between models usually revolved around which country made it, more than any other factor. Have only identified 3 different clone designs of original Delta RC-33/DC-380; made by ~5 different companies over years of flipping planers.
The Chinese produced machines have a different head casting width (+10mm and have to measure difference), used different gear box casting; even though gears, bearings, and seals were same?
Grizzly has sold 2 of the 3 design versions. Have used Grizzly Taiwan machine parts to fix 90’s vintage PM15 from Taiwan? Grizzly Chinese made G0453 parts fit a General brand Chinese made 15” too.
Jet, some defunct off brands, plus some Canada brands are only ones selling the 3rd Chinese made design, which was replaced by a 16” model from same mfg and didn’t sell as many machines as other folks.

YMMV

-- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, Doom, despair, agony on me… - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967

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